The backrooms are ruined tbh

the addition of monstors and entities just turned the whole thing into "oh no, dumb scary moster wants to kill me", cant they just focus on liminality?, now the backrooms are way less fascinating, just because they decided to add some dumb banal shit to the lore

empty infinite spaces are scary on their own, but adding entities to the backrooms just makes no sense, most of the time, like why would there be monsters? its now just like a typical dumb horror movie with a concept that have been milked 103030 times

can we talk about that?

Agreed. Much scarier when nothing's there. Adds the sense of loneliness, too.
Leave it to gen z to ruin a cool concept with all their kewl quirky ideas. Every faggot and his dog feel the need to have his shitty input heard nowadays.

Wasn't this found be an old furniture store or something? Now furniture is the real scary stuff amirite guise

Monsters in the Backrooms is fine, and fuckin' cool, but they need to be extremely rare. Having one around every corner defeats the purpose, but the liminality is supposed to give you a false sense of security. Otherwise, the only danger in the Backrooms would be starvation, and we don't need another Africa simulator.

Nah don't worry, you'll die of thirst long before you die of starvation. I mean, unless you sprinkle in some water fountains I guess.

i wonder if we can make a new lore without all the stupid moster things, they turned the whole thing into some cheap banal horror story based around retarded cringe monsters

i just loved the liminality and the loniless of the backroom
here r things i hate about it
the entities, they make no sense, why would they even exist? it makes the backrooms look sentient, or smth controls it, which ruins the isolation thing

and also the retarded factions, so disgusting and nothing sticks together
they decided to make a faction, of humans who are called "party poopers" and they wear stupid blue masks with a frown on their face, its so cringe and dumb

the faction idea was horrible
and their names are so retarded

the lost, the doomed, the republic, MEG, or smth as dumb as the gaurds of life

who writes these? really this is retarded and cheap work

I like both ideas.

empty infinite spaces are scary on their own

agree

can we talk about that?

yes
I think it's an rc hobby store now.

cant they just focus on liminality?

mundanes can't perceive liminality

empty spaces are scary

No, they arent.

This thread is the first time I've heard of this (yeah, I live under a rock, w/e). I agree that once you start piling on standard horror tropes the whole idea breaks down. I think that if you want to add to it, there should be "breaks" where the space suddenly gives way to something that looks almost normal, natural, lived-in -- but on closer inspection it never actually is. It should give you glimpses of life, company, a way out -- but it always remains just out of reach. And not because some big bad is controlling it or anything, just as the nature of the thing.

most of the mosters are just goofy, i think the whole moster thing is bad to add to it

and also the whole dying thing in the backrooms, the backrooms might be alot scarier if you cant die in it, and the only thing you need to worry about is sanity, i think it would be cooler

we need new ideas in horror, mosters, ghosts, or whatever are just not doing it, they became so dull

i wonder if we can make a new lore without all the stupid moster things

Nothing stopping us.

what if instead of monsters its something scary and real like sharks?

Sharks, huh? That's real solid thinking right there. How about a room... with a MOOSE?

how is this not scary? we have a natural fear of empty spaces

its like the uncanny vally, but not with humans, with spaces, where they look human-made, but at the same time they look like smth random and alien

the backrooms might be alot scarier if you cant die in it

Now THIS is an interesting idea.... what if time/aging/thirst/etc. cease completely in the Backrooms? Then it could be 100% liminality, and the victims' sanity is all that deteriorates over "time". Then as this poster stated The Backrooms would fuck with the people inside, giving them false clues that they actually made it out or are very close to escaping, only to have the facade crumble just as their hopes were raised. Then it would be more of a torturous purgatory, a limbo without death....
What if that's what the afterlife is as a ghost? Revisiting your old memories, trying to find you way back, only to not be able to comprehend that you're dead.... and you cannot escape your eternal prison. That, is true terror.

It seems like it would take a lot of skill to direct a short story using a non-hostile creature.

It's the being lost in an empty, reality adjacent limbo that's scary

What makes the backrooms unsettling is the plain but liminal setting mixed with the droning sound of the lights. It makes your brain start imagining the possible horrors and oddities within the backrooms but since people want to make games and films out of it then they need to create something within the rooms and when you see the monster eventually you won't fear it or the rooms because you "know" what's there.

for me, it's when they started making YouTube videos about scientists exploring the backrooms and they made it a workplace comedy with dudes just casually being killed by giant tentacles

Im an inside electrician who has wired in amazon "fulfillment" centers...literally would just be me tinkering away some days. Ive done this for years, same with going camping, stargazing...etc...none of its scary. If the concept of open spaces scares you its because you have waroed your sense of reality by putting on blinders and going full on tunnelvision.

Warped*

If the concept of open spaces scares you

we're not taking about open spaces faggot. Camping and stargazing have nothing to do with this.

Scary to me is not having a choice in how i am about to be killed, being tortured, or drowning...not walking through an empty office complex.

the creepy dark hallway where i imagine possible things happening

Oh no...you mean what?

what if time/aging/thirst/etc. cease completely in the Backrooms?

What if that's what the afterlife is as a ghost?

i like these ideas
also i saw video on yt that compared the backrooms to dante's inferno, if the backrooms are just the afterlife

If the concept of open spaces scares you

He said empty, not open. Imagine if you woke up one morning and you'd been left behind in yesterday by some cosmic mistake, while everyone had gone past midnight into tomorrow, so you were stuck in an old copy of the world with nobody in it. You're always one day behind everyone else, so you can't communicate with them, you can only see what they left behind before they went to bed.

Meanwhile the original backrooms post had a monster

If you're not careful and you noclip out of reality in the wrong areas, you'll end up in the Backrooms, where it's nothing but the stink of old moist carpet, the madness of mono-yellow, the endless background noise of fluorescent lights at maximum hum-buzz, and approximately six hundred million square miles of randomly segmented empty rooms to be trapped in

God save you if you hear something wandering around nearby, because it sure as hell has heard you

Every so often you might come across a note, or a video tape, or a photo album -- you know, "random documents and audio logs". But they're all your writing, your videos, you pictures -- except that you don't remember having made or recorded any of it. Sometimes you're sad, sometimes you're mad, sometimes you're angry, but it's never actually you. Or is it? You can't tell.

Fuck I've thought of that, like going back in time but no one is there anymore.

>the creepy dark hallway where i imagine possible things happening

Yes, exactly. Your description is accurate and fair.

It had the promise/threat of a monster, which is a much different thing. Imagining the monster to be there is just one of the many ways your mind can fuck with you, but it's inferior to actually having a goofy jumpscare.

Once you start making up actual monsters and dropping them in, like an old style adventure game, it's nothing special anymore. May as well play Zork. Don't lose that light!

well, it doesnt have to be a monster, maybe its just a metaphor, or maybe just hallucinations

but yes, i just dont like the idea of monsters in the backrooms, i wish there was lore that focuses completely on liminality and isolation

I keep hearing whining like yours. It seems that the backrooms entities are really so frightening that their appearance has traumatized your psyche and now you are chasing all over the Internet and asking them to be removed so that you are not afraid. otherwise, it is not clear where such hysteria comes from. Well, yes, monsters don't scare you, so what? Well, don't be scared. The original canonical story has been saved on the Internet especially for you, so you can read it at least every day, and treat the modern expanded backdrops simply as stupid uncanonical fanfiction. I do not see any problem and destruction of backrooms. By the way, the original story also mentioned "someone nearby who heard you," so although the entity was not explicitly described, the presence of entities was still implied initially. It's worth saying that I personally wasn't impressed with the initial concept. Well, yes, you fall into the other world and wander there until you die of thirst, so what? I'm not one of those faint-hearted people who can be scared by tall tales told by someone on the Internet. I just don't see horror as horror, I see it as fantasy. So the extended version with a more detailed ENT seems more interesting to me. in my understanding, backrooms is like Stanislav Lem's Solaris, that is, an intelligent entity that reproduces images from people's memories and materializes them in the form of a bizarre and distorted version. Therefore, as levels (distorted versions of real places) Similarly, entities (distorted versions of people, animals, and objects) also have a right to exist.

going back in time but no one is there anymore

Have you seen the Langoliers?

Sorry, I meant "superior", of course. Got my clauses turned around.

Nope. Tom Holland directs movies now?

entities are not just screaming scary monsters. entities are both animate objects (a hint that the entire backrooms is a sentient entity) and humanoids (like the characters in dreams or "guests" in Solaris, they look and behave like people, but they are not, but only reproduce the appearance of people, which creates the effect of an ominous valley and only enhances the feeling of fake and alien backrooms). Yes, the extended version is completely different from what it was originally, but it's cool in its own way, not everyone can easily appreciate it

As for the groups, well, personally, it seems to me that long-term survival in a surreal hell is even scarier than wandering around there for a couple of days and dying, so bases and outposts where wanderers can survive for a long time only prolong their suffering.

Well congrats, you must have a superior brain or something.
The rest of us will continue our discussion.

i wish there was lore that focuses completely on liminality and isolation

i think the shark idea got thrown out too fast

but i'm not really good, and it wont be as fun as reading others good writing

i'm not really good

just start writing and see what happens.

A lot of the damage to Roman monuments was because people plundered them for building materials. If you went all the way back to ancient Rome, places like the Colosseum would be in a lot better shape having been untouched for a thousand years

alright

i just don't like some of the lore written by the wikidot, especially the factions, like even tho i wrote about mosters and entities, the factions are far worse and make the lore so weird and unfun

Most things related to backrooms are pretty boring/lame if I am honest

Only backrooms story I enjoyed was one about walmart backrooms, that I listened to while on night shift at walmart, which made it extra amusing in a meta-irony sort of way.

sounds like rubbish. factions? i wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole

it is rabbish
backrooms.fandom.com/wiki/Groups
look at this horrible shit
i'm sick of watching yt videos just to see faction shit, its so banal

Indeed. Well in lieu of good lore, id recommend turning to the classics. The Backrooms is just a modern interpretation of ideas that have been around forever.
Check out The Langoliers(1995), it's dated, but still interesting. Or also you could read the short story Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borge.

With such a simple original concept content creators had to invent lore to keep milking it.
You are more that capable of dismissing all the lore as you please, though. It's not like anyone has authority to enforce what is canon.

Most things related to backrooms are pretty boring/lame if I am honest

why would you NOT be honest about that?
it wouldn't even have occurred to me to question your honesty about such a plausible statement, but your saying that has me wondering now
you're tearing me apart, anon

Oh and also house of leaves

simple

keep milking it

Nah, that's not it. It's just the writing of enthusiastic amateurs. They just add and add without any thought of restraint. They don't understand that less is more. In the hands of talented authors you can get something nice without having to add all kinds of shit.

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Security guard accused of racism after stopping alleged shoplifter. Wins trial and clears name?
He has a gofundme.

the point is that all of it is derived work, and anyone is free to cut out anything down to the core of what was there in the first place. No one has the right to say otherwise, unless you choose to build off others derived works.