Why can't consumers stop consuming? "I-i-i-i'm gonna boycott you!!!" *buys product 2 days later*

I responded to the wrong retard.

Rude, I'm not a retard, my handicaps derive from being too smart, which is a much worse fate.

We're all retards in here Anon.

I'm fucked in the head and dysfunctional sure, but retards are low intelligence and that is one of the few things that can't be claimed about me.

The fact you don't doubt your own ignorance is already a red flag Anon.
We're all retarded in one way or another.

How have I claimed to not doubt my own ignorance?
Retarded is literally related to having a low IQ and I've got an IQ so high that I wistfully yearn for moderate brain damage if it meant I had an easier time relating to other people.
I freely admit to being mentally handicapped, but I am in fact not retarded.

my handicaps derive from being too smart

I've got an IQ so high that I wistfully yearn for moderate brain damage if it meant I had an easier time relating to other people.

People who fixate on IQ scores and think that they're "too smart" for the world are retarded.
Genuinely intelligent people are subtle and generally don't talk about their intellect openly.
It's also not a handicap but a huge advantage. And in certain respects they can still be retarded. No human is immune.

I'm not fixated, I only mentioned my IQ because you called me retarded which relates to IQ.
How do you know how genuinely intelligent people act? You clearly aren't one, genuinely intelligent people tend to socially awkward and brash, with little regard to taboos.
You keep using the word retarded as an umbrella term for having mental issues and/or handicaps, which is not what that words means.
Call me dysfunctional, handicapped, autistic, ADHD brained, socially awkward and I'll nod and agree with you.
You're simply just wrong about calling me retarded, because that word relates low intelligence specifically.

Because humans are full of shit.

Call it what you like Anon.

How do you know how genuinely intelligent people act?

Intelligence is like being a woman, if you have to say you are, you aren't.

You clearly aren't one, genuinely intelligent people tend to socially awkward and brash, with little regard to taboos.

I already know Im retarded.
Not that's called autism Anon. You're coping by saying it makes you special/intelligent because you can't talk to people.
You aren't special you're just as retarded and mundane as every other human. You're need to feel "special" to justify your own short comings is laughable.
If you're so smart then why not reason your way out of those things?

Why do I keep seeing images of bud light on Anon Babble lately? Are they trying to shill it here with astroturf ads?

I already built myself a comfortable life and I have reasoned myself out of my issues to the extent that I can.
Also no, I don't think I'm super special or better than anyone, I'm just highly intelligent.
It's not a value judgement, it's a statement of fact based on having been tested for it by a psychiatrist.
You're clearly of above average intelligence and capable of understanding that handicaps comes in many severities and shapes, it's just unfortunate that you choose to undermine that by deluding yourself into thinking that you can tell others what their motivations and emotions are instead of asking them how they feel about it.
My only point of contention with you is that you called me retarded when I am technically not retarded, because my IQ is not below 80.
You're just pompously trying to dictate the reasons to me, of why I'm not just rolling over and accepting your faulty umbrella term use of the word retarded.

I don't see merit in IQ tests.
What good is an IQ score if it causes the recipient to reason,

I'm more intelligent so that determines the capacity of my thoughts and actions because the number is high.

The bottom line is you haven't actually grasped or understood the limits of human knowledge or reasoning because you've taken those things for granted through your own self-identity of being a "smart person".
That's the pitfall of narcissism is that it precludes you from inquiring into the deeper ontology of qualia and epistemology.
How your being "emerges" as an identity, what it's experiencing, and how it forms that into a worldview you operate within.
And if you really doubt all of this stuff you begin to realize you don't actually "know" anything and never will.
We're all retarded apes.

I don't see merit in IQ tests.

What good is an IQ score if it causes the recipient to reason,

That just shows that you haven't looked into how they function. IQ tests are not value judgements, they look into all of the different cognitive skills and abilities that a person is born with and rate them on a scale of how proficient or not a given person is in a given mental area.
Oh fuck off anon, I'm not a narcissist just for using a tool to describe what my brain can do, I have said several times that I do not consider myself superior to anyone or better in any way, yet you keep harping on that line of though because your bias about IQ has a negative slant.

That's the pitfall of narcissism is that it precludes you from inquiring into the deeper ontology of qualia and epistemology.

Do you have a bachelor in underwater basked weaving or are you just trying to assert the intelligence that I already acknowledged that you obviously have by using as fancy words as possible to make your argument?

How your being "emerges" as an identity, what it's experiencing, and how it forms that into a worldview you operate within.

And if you really doubt all of this stuff you begin to realize you don't actually "know" anything and never will.

We're all retarded apes.

So, when you huff your own farts, do you use a cognac glass or a red wine glass to contain the intestinal gasses?

doesn't buy from target or wallmart because i don't like megacorps doing a duopoly and killing small retail before amazon came in

fuckin commie

continues to not spend money at target tor wallmart while target goes full in on LGBTQ products

fuckin homophobe

continues to not buy from target or wallmart after target stops selling LGBTQ and wallmart fights trump on tarrifs

hey, pick a side guy

it's easy to boycott places you already don't go to

You're assuming that one's intellect does not determine the scope, depth, and quality of one's values Anon.
You're trying to divorce the two so that you can place yourself above me and others. So that you're always "beyond reproach" from criticism and I'm not buying it.
Just because you don't understand or perceive something doesn't mean it's not there Anon. Also I don't have to appeal to the authority of IQ tests or their merit. If you can't question that premise then you aren't thinking critically.
You don't phase me at all and here's the rub: I'm still a fucking retard just like you.

You're trying to divorce the two so that you can place yourself above me and others. So that you're always "beyond reproach" from criticism and I'm not buying it.

At no point have I done that, I've said several times that I don't consider myself better or superior to others.

You're assuming that one's intellect does not determine the scope, depth, and quality of one's values Anon.

And you're assuming that I am just another iteration of you and that I must think in the ways you'd imagine yourself thinking to talk about IQ like I have. This is hilarious because that means you are using your own narcissistic leanings to condemn me as a narcissist.

Just because you don't understand or perceive something doesn't mean it's not there Anon. Also I don't have to appeal to the authority of IQ tests or their merit. If you can't question that premise then you aren't thinking critically.

Yeah keep having that argument with yourself and assigning me an opinion, it's a surefire way for you to feel that you've won.
My only reason for mentioning my IQ is that you need to be below 80 IQ points in order to be retarded, which has no bearing on the inherent value or worth of the retarded person, it just describes their mental faculties.
Also please refrain from attacking my critical thinking when you yourself are arguing from emotion with a bunch of fancy words to bolster yourself.

You don't phase me at all and here's the rub: I'm still a fucking retard just like you.

Neither of us are retards anon, because we don't have IQ's below 80, you're a midwit trying to use emotional arguments to shame me for asserting my intelligence without claiming superiority and I'm a borderline genius with little to show for it and a hope that interacting with you will damage my brain enough to seem more normal. If that were so, I wouldn't have to bend over backwards to explain to guys like you that me sharing how smart I am isn't an attempt at competing with you.

The boycott did not and probably will never work due to the market illiteracy of the average consumer and the byzantine branding umbrella of any average corpo nowadays. People boycott budlight and went to purchase other shit from busch like coronas without realizing that they were giving the same people their money.
Plus, some people(most) arent tuned into the culture war and are ignorant, more also just dont care regardless of their awareness

Here's an even better question Anon, why does it matter?
Honestly. If we're all humans and we're all fucking stupid and don't know as much as we think about reality, why is that a bad thing?
Who cares. It's like being angry that the sky is blue, or the sun rises in the East.
Being moderately "better" is still lame. The tallest midget is still la midget. Humans aren't special and neither are you. Maybe the experience of being alive is special, but it has nothing to do with intelligence.

Here's an even better question Anon, why does it matter?

Right back at you, why have you used this much time trying to convince me that your faulty use of the word retarded is valid?

Honestly. If we're all humans and we're all fucking stupid and don't know as much as we think about reality, why is that a bad thing?

I honestly don't know how to reply to that, I know I can be stupid in spite of being intelligent and I'm aware that I know very little about reality as a whole, I just don't see why you are going on about it.

Who cares. It's like being angry that the sky is blue, or the sun rises in the East.

Dude, are you really doing the thing where you argue about something for ages, get refuted and then ask me why it matters and why I care?
It doesn't matter all that much and we are only still talking about it because you refused to see my point that retarded people have an IQ below 80, which makes neither of us retards.
You took that as me making value judgements and considering myself superior, jumped on your high horse and proceeded to start an argument with me where you generally didn't care about what my opinion was, because you had already assigned me a role.
So yeah, you clearly cared a lot.

Being moderately "better" is still lame.

See you're doing it again, assigning me an opinion I don't hold. I have never espoused the opinion that my high intelligence makes me better than anyone, in fact I've said the opposite and claimed that it hampers me.

The tallest midget is still la midget. Humans aren't special and neither are you. Maybe the experience of being alive is special, but it has nothing to do with intelligence.

Can you hand me my lines please? I don't know how to act the role you are assigning me in the argument happening in your head.

Yeah because you made the plea

I'm so intelligent Anon. My IQ is high and I would give anything to be normal.

Then I called you a narcissist and you became defensive. No wonder you're awkward I'm real life if this is how you interact with people.
You've come across someone who isn't impressed by you and your having a tantrum.
Just be humble enough to recognize the limits of your own human understanding. You aren't beyond and you are still a retard.
I would honestly ask money back from your psychiatrist if I were you.

Stocking up on Anal RoseBud Trans Light cause it is on sale during a boycott is just good business sense. Plus that dude is Warren Buffet.

Warren Buffet here,
You like sucking cocks?

Hi Charlie Munger here,
I'm dead Warren it is time to move on it is okay you can go back to sucking your own cock.

Bill Gates here,
He's too busy sucking mine.
God I miss Malinda. She left me after I raped that underage bitch on Epstein's yacht.

Then I called you a narcissist and you became defensive. No wonder you're awkward I'm real life if this is how you interact with people.

Oh look, you're back to trying to shame me into agreeing with you with emotional arguments again.
I've actually managed to limit my awkwardness around other people in real life quite a bit and I did so by recognizing my own faults and merits while doing what I can to rein in the former and lean into the latter without sticking my head up my own ass.

You've come across someone who isn't impressed by you and your having a tantrum.

I have no need for you to be impressed by me and not agreeing with your proclamations of how I am is not me having a tantrum.

Just be humble enough to recognize the limits of your own human understanding. You aren't beyond and you are still a retard.

I've humbly agreed with you on me not being special or inherently beyond the worthiness of others several times. I'm not a retard though, because that word has a specific meaning in relation to IQ and it isn't an umbrella term for just not being perfect like you are trying to make it.

I would honestly ask money back from your psychiatrist if I were you.

I think your major point of contention comes from not knowing what a comprehensive psychiatric IQ test measures and what it is used for.
Contrary to say a Mensa IQ test, which only focuses on logical reasoning, math skills, language abilities, spatial relations skills, knowledge retained and the ability to solve novel problems, an IQ test done by a psychiatrist also takes emotional intelligence, work memory, the ability to focus on a given task and impulse control into account.
I got tested in order to assess how my ADHD disorder was affecting me and me finding out my IQ was just a byproduct of the process that wasn't super important to the task at hand.
Again, you are assigning me your way of thinking on these subjects and condemning me as a narcissist based on it.

Hi Jeffrey Epstein's yacht here,
Don't bring me into this. I'm in the witness protection program.

I'm fucked in the head

The Atlantic ocean chiming in.
Um, you guys, you might want to check the bottom there's little girl skeletons down here.

Posts with walls and walls of text. A bunch of Anon Babble 12 year old's talk shit about things they know nothing about.

I'm not offended, smarter than you, and have actually over one my retardation you guys I was just joking.

Still arguing with a retard.

I'm right here Anon.

See

Geez anon, you're retarded okay, I won't call you above average intelligence anymore I promise.
You've been right there the entire time anon, you've just been wrong while being right there all along.
The word retarded has a specific meaning and you have convinced me that you are too retarded to understand what that specific meaning actually entails.

Actually mwntal retardation is no longer used in the DSM 5.
So it's colloquial term is more applicable.

Finally an argument where you don't assume a bunch of opinions on my behalf.
Yes anon, you could colloquially call me a retard in the way where the word is used in such a broad sense, that it essentially loses all meaning because it makes everyone retarded to an extent.
That makes everything feel safe and equal, because if everyone is super, no one is and that appeals to you Syndrome anon, doesn't it?

Oh I'm not saying everyone is a genius.
I mean quite literally humans are retarded and we don't know as much as we think we do about existence.
It's really not that hard of a concept to understand. Just takes some humility.

Well consider your humility signaling acknowledged and seen anon, there is no further need for you to assign me negative opinions in order for you to convey how humble you are.

Oh I'm not saying everyone is a genius.

You missed my point, I was saying that you are utilizing a way of thinking that seeks to erase the fact that people are different from each other, because you think that acknowledging differences is a system designed to assign people different worth and value from each other.
Saying that everyone is retarded is just as ridiculous as claiming that everyone is a genius.
There is an entire spectrum of intelligence anon and rejecting that while claiming that everyone including yourself is a retard, is just you humble bragging.
You're trying to appear unique by being especially aware of the faults of humanity and humbly claiming to be a retard alongside all of the other retards.

Well maybe there's something transcendent to intelligence?
But you'll never experience that because you insist on differences and identity.
Life is not about knowing things Anon but appreciating the limitations of it.

Well maybe there's something transcendent to intelligence?

Such as?

But you'll never experience that because you insist on differences and identity.

One can acknowledge differences and identities without jumping to conclusions about the inherent worth of people in advance.

Life is not about knowing things Anon but appreciating the limitations of it.

Did you get that one in a fortune cookie anon?

Well if you're going to be skeptical that's not my problem.

One can acknowledge differences and identities without jumping to conclusions about the inherent worth of people in advance.

I can also deconstruct those conventions and prove such meanings are constantly deffered because Western thought and langauge is logocentric.
Your point?

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Well if you're going to be skeptical that's not my problem.

Well if you're going to be deliberately cryptic and not explain what you mean, you being unconvincing isn't my problem.

I can also deconstruct those conventions and prove such meanings are constantly deffered because Western thought and langauge is logocentric.

Your point?

Well if you want to be hierarchical and have an exclusionary view on the concept of knowledge that is up to you.
Personally I prefer a framework of meaning that attempts to describe reality as it is through observation, instead of one that asserts that the act of describing reality will dictate what it is and that one can change reality by describing it differently.
Deconstruct in one hand and shit in the other, then come back and tell me which is more real.

Maybe if you had employable skills, you could get a job, and then you could buy things too.
Instead you post on an anonymous anime image board, crying about how everyone else rejects marxism.

Observation isn’t neutral. What you see is already shaped by how you think and talk. “Reality” isn’t just out there waiting to be described; it’s filtered through culture, language, and power. You think naming doesn’t change things? Tell that to someone whose identity was erased or redefined by a label. Deconstruction doesn’t deny reality but it exposes how what we call “real” is often just what got normalized.

Observation isn’t neutral.

True but the mode of thought that you are opposing admits that and tries to set up rules for that observation that endeavors to make it less subjective and more objective.

What you see is already shaped by how you think and talk.

Sure our brains and senses have a preset way of observing reality, which comes with blind spots in all areas of your sensory system, which is why we have built tools that can observe what we can't.

“Reality” isn’t just out there waiting to be described; it’s filtered through culture, language, and power.

Specifically from the human perspective that might be true, but if we didn't exist, reality would still be out there and doing its thing, while being available for observation by other sapient creatures.

You think naming doesn’t change things?

It changes our understanding of the things, but the things themselves don't change just because we name them.

Tell that to someone whose identity was erased or redefined by a label.

You're appealing to emotion again.

Deconstruction doesn’t deny reality but it exposes how what we call “real” is often just what got normalized.

Another way of saying that is that you have patented what reality is and assigned yourself the position of judging what is or isn't normalized.
A good example of that is our IQ discussion. You assigned me a superiority complex and a narcissist personality, because you've decided that instead of being a measuring tool one uses to describe the proportions of a thing, the IQ test is a measure of the worth of humans and a way to assign superiority and inferiority.
So in your act of deconstructing it, you cemented me in a position where in spite of my assertions to the contrary, it can only be negative because you've decreed that measuring mental traits is useless and hateful.

which comes with blind spots in all areas of our*

No, reality isn’t “filtered”; your interpretation is. A starving kid doesn’t need a new discourse; they need food. You can’t theorize your way out of a bullet or reframe cancer into remission. Power shapes language, sure, but language doesn’t bend gravity. The world is before it’s spoken.

Neat, you've arrived at my point, but somehow you think you are refuting what I say with it.
You were the one using a deconstruction filter with a built in negative bias, but welcome back to logos I guess.
Calling IQ tests bad is like calling a hammer evil, because you can use it to bash someones face in. A tool is only evil if you use it for evil.

No, you're dodging. Deconstruction isn't just a “negative filter”; it's a method for exposing how “neutral tools” like IQ tests are already loaded with cultural, racial, and economic biases. Pretending they’re just hammers ignores who made the hammer, who gets hit, and who decides what counts as “intelligence.” Tools don’t exist in a vacuum. If a test systematically fails the marginalized, it’s not just being “used wrong”; it’s built wrong.

Have you tried deconstructing that deconstruction method in order to figure out if it happens to be loaded with cultural, racial and economic biases as well, which might skew the results you derive from using it on other concepts?

Of course deconstruction can be turned on itself; and it has been. That’s the whole point: it doesn’t claim moral high ground or immunity. Unlike the tools it critiques, deconstruction assumes it's fallible and context-bound. That’s its strength. It's a scalpel, not a blueprint. You don’t discredit a mirror by pointing out that it reflects you too.

Eh, it seems like a tool intended to invalidate everything in order to feel smug about how shit everything is.
I prefer recognizing how tools and concepts can be used for bad things in order to know when someone is trying to use them like that.
The other side of that is figuring out how to use those same tools and concepts for good things.
Returning to my IQ test example, in my case it was used to give me the information that my work memory is impaired and that I need to use different memory tools in order to work around that impairment. Instead of gauging my worth to society, which IQ tests can also be maliciously used for, it pinpointed where my ADHD was influencing my cognition and was followed up with advice on actions I could take in order to alleviate it.
So yeah, if your deconstructionist research was followed up by an earnest investigation, of whether the thing it deconstructed could also be used to do good, I could accept its utility.

That’s a misread. Deconstruction isn’t about smug nihilism, it’s about pulling apart assumptions so we stop mistaking them for truths. It doesn’t say "everything is bad"; it says "let’s look harder before calling something neutral or good." Your IQ test example proves the point: it was helpful because someone used it critically and thoughtfully, not because the test was inherently virtuous. That kind of reflection is deconstruction. You're just doing it without admitting it.

I was under the impression that you were rejecting IQ tests wholesale because you could conceive of a way to use them badly. If that isn't the case we don't really have a point of contention and I readily admit that I use deconstruction in order to gauge the merits and demerits of concepts and tools.
You just came across as one of those anons who go "That is invalid because it is a social construct" which in and of itself is a social construct that then invalidates itself and can be readily rejected.

Nope, not rejecting IQ tests wholesale, just rejecting the idea that they’re neutral by default. The difference is, I’m not saying

social construct = invalid

I’m saying

social construct = worth questioning

If you're using deconstruction to weigh pros and cons, then congratulations, you’re not above it, you’re doing it. Dismissing that with a memelevel strawman just dodges the work of thinking critically about the tools we rely on.

I think we both jumped to conclusions several times and thus ended up discussing something that we ultimately agree on for longer than is strictly necessary.
It kinda makes me nostalgic since this situation hearkens back to a Anon Babble from the past that I remember semi fondly.
And I agree, if my last post to you was in reply to "social construct = worth questioning" and not "social construct = invalid", it would have been a dismissive and cowardly meme level strawman on my part.
I happen to agree with you though, social constructs do deserve thorough questioning in order to figure out if they are useful or not.

Yeah, I think we both brought out the flamethrowers before realizing we were mostly aiming at the same target. Classic internet moment. And honestly, I respect the hell out of someone who can say, “Yep, I might’ve straw-manned that”, most people double down instead. Glad we landed in the same place: question the tools, keep what works, and stay sharp enough to know the difference. Cheers to vintage Anon Babble energy, minus the chaos, plus a little philosophy.

Yeah, I think we both brought out the flamethrowers before realizing we were mostly aiming at the same target.

That is kind of a ceremonial behavior that both parties tend to act out as a preamble to having a discussion on here though, it's kind of akin to a tribal tradition from the culture on here.
I saw a documentary where an anthropologist was visiting a jungle tribe and just taking part in and observing their daily lives while asking unobtrusive questions when they didn't understand something.
There was footage of this one day where they are visiting a hut and suddenly they hear a man angrily yelling from afar, announcing himself as a dangerous warrior expecting a fight, over the next couple of hours he very slowly approaches while repeating his message and getting the reply "we are not enemies, there is no fight". When he actually reaches the hut he repeats his message once, receives the same reply, questions "Is it true, are we not enemies?" and once they reply that yes it is true he says "good to see you my daughter and husband of my daughter".
It's sort of the same here, we start with flamethrowers and fighting words and end up friendly.
I appreciate the respect anon, I consider admitting that I might be or have been wrong an action of power, not weakness.
I enjoyed our interaction.