Hey faggots I have a serious medical question for all of the doctors here on Anon Babble...

Hey faggots I have a serious medical question for all of the doctors here on Anon Babble. I know this place is stuffed to the brim with scholars and learned Doctors.

I have an eye issue where basically I'm getting random spots in my vision. The spots look similar to when you accidentally look at a bright light or the sun, and you're left with an after image. Except I get these RANDOMLY. No bright light just the random spot in my vision.

I've been to an optometrist and an opthamologist who basically both told me that my eyes look great with no issues. Got my heart looked at by a cariologist and everything came back good. And YET still these spots plague me.

Some people have said maybe migraines? Except I have some spots permanently in my vision which doesn't line up with migraines (almost always temporary).

These spots come into my vision almost 50 to 60 times per day. I'm losing my fucking mind and honestly I'm at the point where I'm becoming extremely depressed.

Does ANYONE have any input? Anything?

sounds like you're suffering from ocular migraines

Not to be confused with the other kind of migraine

.......... let me ask you a couple questions:

does it ever appear to be an 'arcing' zig zaggy lightning bolt looking pattern around the peripheral vision?

Do you ever see colors associated with these spots?

also, do you have a history of diabetes in your family?

some people have said maybe migraines?

Not the classic migraine that everybody thinks of... no sir

however, it very well could be OCULAR MIGRAINES

It's a completely different topic

................Do you have a history of hypoglycemia?

Do you ever feel weak and shaky if you don't eat by a certain time?

any history of blood sugar problems at all?

Do these spots remind you of the type of visual stimuli one might have if they rubbed their eyes really hard?

I've had migraines with aura before and while these are similar to those I never get an actual headache.

They're less like arc shapes and more like little circles 90% of the time

The shapes are sometimes blue/purple and other times white or black

I do have a history of diabetes in my family but I've been tested and I don't have it.

Ocular migraines? Hmm maybe no doctor has brought this up to me yet ill have to look into it.

I do get kinda shaky and weak if I don't eat for a while but idk if it's dramatic enough to be an issue. I have no history of blood sugar issues.

A retinal migraine, also known as an ocular migraine, is a rare type of migraine that causes brief visual disturbances in one eye. It can cause temporary vision loss or other eye symptoms, such as flashing lights. Retinal migraines are caused by vascular spasm or ischemia in or behind the affected eye. In most cases, eyesight returns to normal after the attack. Resting and avoiding triggers like bright lights or loud noises can help

Sort of but I still think the best way I can describe it is the after image you get from looking at something bright. Similar to an aura from migraine but small and most of them last for only about a minute (although some of them have lasted a few days)

I'm pretty sure you're headed in the right direction now

keep in mind it's different for everybody

The information I just copied and pasted might not necessarily apply to another person with the same distance

But now it's up to you and a physician to do more diagnostics

It could be something as simple as blood sugar

And then again you have a history with migraines

I think you're headed in the right direction now

(It's impossible to make a diagnosis online, of course, but it's not impossible to narrow things down a little bit)

Your problem is likely benign and while reading something like this always makes me think "detaching retinas," if you've had it for more than a few weeks that's extremely unlikely.

yep... I had been complaining about the zigzagging arcs in my field division since I met my wife

then, when she hit 40, suddenly she began experiencing the exact same fucking thing!!!

we honestly believe it's primarily related to too much screen time

because we're both used to the stress of life... neither of us thinks life's stress is causing it

But we both know we spend way too much time looking at monitors

field of vision*

sorry speech to text typo

I do work in tech and I'm constantly looking at screens and stress has been high recently.

Honestly most everyone in the thread has pointed me towards ocular migrianes. Definitely looking into this thank you.

Detached retina was my first concern when I looked up my symptoms which Is why I went to eye doctors immediately but they have cleared me so unless they're missing something major I'm thinking this is neurological.

of course you're already aware about floaters and streamers...

those annoying little bits and pieces of detached ripped retina tissue, floating in our eyeballs aqueous center

well, like I said glaucoma puts a lot of stress on your retina, and it's also capable of causing this same symptom

So don't rule out glaucoma if you're looking for a good differential diagnosis

everyone

it was just me
I simply post multiple times

I feel like glaucoma would have been noted by all of the tests I have between the optometrist/opthamologist. But I'll keep it in mind. I do have a bunch of floaters in my vision and have for a long time.

Okay well maybe it's just me and you talking idk lmao either way I think neuro is probably correct

strange that both you and your wife are experiencing it
maybe someone's poisoning you

You haven't mentioned pain, so i doubt it's any kind of migraine. On a scale of 1-10, 1 being no pain and 10 being mauled by a bear, where are you at?

0 pain but it sounds like ocular/retinal migraines can occur without pain

So can strokes. Have you had a basic metabolic panel done?

Yes I have and everything came back normal. Plus this is an issue I've been dealing with for a few months now.

What exactly does "everything came back normal" mean? If someone has a GSW but their BP is reading 120/80, I'm not going to think that's normal.

It sounds like you've already decided it's ocular migraines anyway, so no need to worry.

If your diet is not bad and you are a healthy weight and your sugar and sodium levels average around the daily recommended values and you're under the age of 25, ignore the rest of this.

If your diet is bad and you're over 26 you need to fix it and start doing some moderate cardio immediately at least 4 times per week for any chance at reversing or stabilizing. You can have diabetes at any weight even underweight. So you can start here and see if it improves.

Yeah, so that's a high probability of diabetic retinopathy. It can happen when pre-diabetic. They can be accompanied with migraines.

Eye doctors are not usually capable of accurately diagnosing the rest of your anatomy, kind of like dentists they are not real doctors. I'm kind of shocked your cardiologist didn't think to check.

That being said I'd need to look at your charts and run blood work and a urinalysis to start narrowing things down.

You need to go see a physician and ask about diabetic retinopathy and get labs drawn. If you get faint easy when you don't eat or your blood sugar drops; or maybe it gets too high and you get diabetic symptoms severe enough, you might go blind or lose limbs.

Also increase your ginger intake if it's a food you can tolerate.

I have to wait 900 seconds to post so I'll drop this here and disappear.

do those spots behave like blind spots?
you have a naturally occurring one in each eye. find it, consider if these blind spots behave like that (imperceptible except when something "disappears" in them), or are they *really* like you looked at the sun and there's now a very perceptible spot that even seems to have a color

so far it sounds neurological to me. if it's like actual blind spots, not overexposure spots, then they call that "eye migraine". it can travel/creep all across the field of vision.

migraine can even affect other senses, primarily touch. if you've ever had a limp "asleep" because you sat on it wrong, that's the sensation. numb, but you can still move it. that numb sensation could also travel/move all over your body. hands, face, ...

shaky and weak if you don't eat

You sound very unhealthy

little circles

that doesn't sound like ocular migraine at all

in one eye.

then it's retinal

if it's in both eyes in the same places roughly, then it's in the visual cortex

you fucking retard.

NO U
it's prudent to see an eye doctor when one has issues with the eyes.
they know very well about issues that are neurological or cardiovascular, but present in affected vision. they know to send you to other specialists, if the symptoms suggest it.

Not a doctor but experienced something similar.
I think those are just vortexes.
The frequency is concerning but try changing up the lighting in your room and see if that helps.
What I experienced was a bunch of very dark slightly purplish dots everywhere moving towards the center of my vision, not exactly the same but could be a similar reason.

mine are always "zig zaggy" lightning bolt streaks

my eye migraines are in the brain, and they look similar to that. weird patchy shapes.
I wouldn't call them flashy though. they seem to present as an interpolation of image content from surrounding areas (i.e. literal blind spot). in a dark room, they're dark, etc. I only notice them when I start having trouble seeing things I know are there, such as words right in the fovea.

for me the issues started at around 36, iirc. I was stressed at the time, which didn't help.
now at 37/38, I'm having migraines almost constantly, but the eye migraines only every couple of weeks.

I'm also in tech, but that need not mean much.
we're meeting on Anon Babble. we're preselected to be some flavor of basement dwellers.

This. Even if you don't think optometrists are real doctors (you'd be retarded if you thought that), they know how to get you to see a specialist quick. Ever wonder why it takes so long to see a neurologist? It's because they're taking patients referred to them by other professionals who know they can't wait, I've experienced this myself.

I mean the doctor went over the results with my and said everything was at a normal level nothing of any concern in their opinion

I've had a full blood panel workup done and been to optometrist and opthamologist wouldn't one of them had been able to diagnose this? I mean I'll ask about it because at this point I'm desperate for any kind of answer but idk. I'm slightly over weight like maybe 20 pounds over "healthy" being.

Yes similar to blind spots

Again it's not that dramatic maybe just if I don't eat for 7 to 8 hours I get a little shaky which I believe is normal

Yeah that's why I'm so confused

I get this in both eyes but sometimes if I close 1 eye the spot will disappear. Which leads me to believe it was an eye issue originally.

Only reason I noted it is because yes I'm on screens a ton (probably like 99% of Anon Babble users like you said)

Get a second opinion or maybe a third opinion, you've probably poisoned the well with your first doctor. You're one of those patients that doesn't want a diagnosis, you're looking for someone to confirm what you believe regardless of whether it's true or not. For your type, they just collect your copay and document just enough to cover their asses.

I'm literally desperate for a diagnosis lol the doctors kinda just tell me everything looks good and I keep getting referred out

Did you follow up on any of those referrals?

Yes I went general doctor>optometrist>opthamologist>cardiologist but it feels like I've hit a dead end like i said. I'm probably going back to primary care doctor to ask for neurologist referral at this point

have you considered the possibility yoire just seeing the white blood cells traversing the veins in your eyes?

we're poisoning ourselves

by spending too much time staring at LED screens

Go for it, but I'm telling you there's a reason the ophthalmologist referred you to cardiology and not neurology. It's not like they forgot about a whole branch of medicine. It'd be wise to find out why they did that.

(not op) this has happened to me but only a few times in the past after i smoked pot or took mushrooms
could this be at all relevant from your knowledge?

Well sorry I should have been more clear. I know why they referred me. They said they wanted to rule out this being a vascular issue or heart issue where there isn't enough blood getting to my eyes or optic nerve. But after a heart ultra sound, stress test, ekg and heart monitor nothing came back I've yet to have any kind of mri of brain scan which I feel like will probably come from a neuro.

?

Damn I should really get an OLED :) .

You are either seeing floaters, schizophrenic, or the extra terrestrials are going to probe you

I already see a bunch of floaters
In my late 20s and I think I'd know if I was schizo
If the aliens are coming for me they need to hurry up.

you said these circles sometimes cross your line of vision?
have you counted out the possibility that its just you seeing your blood cells?
this is an example
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon

I actually do have BFE when I look at the sky but this is very different

Yeah given you’ve had cardio issues ruled out ocular/retinal migraine is your most likely explanation
Brain tumor is always a technical possibility but not worth considering unless you’re out of ideas or you develop another neurological symptom, the odds this would show up alone are vanishingly small