Is there actually something wrong with just like having sex with anyone you want, like your daughter, or enjoying yourself in general, assuming no harm caused?
Is there something morally wrong with it, or is there something wrong with you if you want to do it?
Because society seems to be irrationally against pleasurable things.
Japan is asking btw. I am a Japan representative
While you're here why are nipple kinks so common in Japan and how do we spread it to the rest of the Western world?
like your daughter
like your daughter?
Anon, maybe you should jump off a cliff or something?
as long as both people want to do it, i see nothing wrong with incest. it harms no one and never did. only thing to use condoms to not get preggo coz baby would be retarded. beside that, have fun
Why
They have to censor everything else so they fetishize nips
midwit never share your opinion again. there are several things wrong with it. in fact if it wasnt wrong your contrarian ass wouldnt want to do it.
If it's between two consenting adults and you didn't do any fucked up grooming while she was young, then sure. Have fun.
Notably, even with consenting adults power dynamics are an important thing to consider when pursuing any relationship.
Thread specifically asking what's wrong with it
Says there are several things wrong with it
Doesn't elaborate
Calls others midwits
yes. if you cared then you would think and you would find answer. im not a slave to bne delegated your thinking. if you cant find the several answers then you are genetically stupid, or young or ignorant, and that ends here. how much do you pay me nigga. sometimes i work for free, sometimes i dont
I cared, that's why I have thought about it and also asked others.
You're a clown. A joke. You're worth nothing, all you brought to the table was your own cognitive dissonance.
dont be mad at me because of your flaws
Society seems to be irrationally in favor of pleasurable things and forgetting yourself in degeneracy. In a right society you would not be allowed to live.
Are you calling pleasure degenerate? What logical reasons do you have? Or is it just dogma?
It's amazing how every one claiming that there's something wrong with it have absolutely nothing to say when you ask them, and in addition are quite hateful.
This has strengthened my position and furthermore I've started to believe that those against it are immoral themselves.
Having sex can permanently damage or destroy the relationship that was there before. Close familial relationships are too important to risk destroying. You don't know in advance whether it will or not, and horny people will have an even harder time judging.
You seem to like to simplify it to "pleasure", but why couldn't you find pleasure elsewhere? This world is crawling with humans. Or you could use your hand. Why choose your daughter? The choice makes me suspicious there is something additionally damaging behind it.
I guess you didn't read the OP, it said assuming no harm caused.
That is like asking what is the problem with drunk driving, assuming no harm caused.
So you're saying sex should not be done any time because there's too much of a risk of something bad happening then.
like your daughter
Never breed anon.
Never post anon.
I'm saying we culturally suppress behaviour with elevated risk of damage. The elevated risk of damage is what is wrong with it.
Nah fuck you, I'll post when I want.
I would say no. but in a perfect society people wouldn't be so desperate. were still suffering from the last two millenniums of evolution. there should be abundance everywhere, even pussy and dick, but society is sick from control
Right back at you.
Sure post as much as you want, just avoid breeding, because you'd end up raping your daughters.
How about I do nothing you say you powerless little bitch.
Oh sorry ma'am, I didn't realize you were here to boss bitch, have some validation.
That sounds like a great rationalization that you made after already forming a belief, and something that isn't consistent with the world.
Drunk driving has real risks with really bad consequences. Some places it's not even much of a taboo.
On the other hand, if you're dumb you run the chance of ruining a relationship if you have sex, could happen, fair enough. The stigma however is much higher in this case. Not exactly consistent with your theory.
I've had a sexual relationship with my step dad for several years. I mt basically stopped once I started having serious relationships. If I broke up and it was a while I would be back with my step dad. I feel like I am pretty normal. I got married and been with him a long time. I did marry and older man and I would assume it's because of my step dad.
When did he start taking advantage of you?
Also aren't you ashamed of cuckolding your mom?
nice. i slept with my brother a few times. i wish more people were honest about this stuff so we could fix society. as long as youre both happy idg why it matters to anybody else. that being said i wouldnt do anything with anybody so young. i find it a little crazy. i like a mutual connections and too young is a huge turn off
I initiated it so I don't feel like he took advantage of me. We both knew it had to be a secret but he was loving. I was also almost a teen so it wasn't like I was a kid. My mom got cancer and slwent through chemo. They weren't having sex which is why it basically started. They are still together and she doesn't know.
Incest is a lot more common than most people think. I don't think it's bad long as it's not forced. But that applies at any age. Little kids is to extreme if it's anything at puberty and past to me it's fine. I met my now husband at 18 he was 30 at the time.
I don't think it's bad long as it's not forced.
isnt everything forced in the end?
Only if you say no and they continue. If I go up and blow my step dad and he doesn't say no, that's not forced.
i mean like manipulation is a form of forcing and everybody does that
I initiated it so I don't feel like he took advantage of me. We both knew it had to be a secret but he was loving. I was also almost a teen so it wasn't like I was a kid.
So what, you were 12? Yeah that makes you a child when it happened and you initiating is something he allowed and probably duped you into doing.
How are you delusional enough to think that almost being a teen makes you not a kid?
1. Yes society is against other people doing anything pleasurable. Anything. Relationships are required to be combat, whether it is cuddling your children (DO NOT have intercourse with them) and a peaceful bond with your spouse, to mutually beneficial work relations and neighbors who don't scream at you with threats. And especially a government for the people, not actively extorting and violating survivability. So much so that people will make themselves miserable to be sure others are not having fun. Just having an enjoyable hobby is reason to be ridiculed by this culture (both western and japanese).
2. Having lots of sex it just deranged behavior due to having nothing else pleasurable in life. Sex is most enjoyable with a compatible partner when both are consenting and willing. Height of passion in one night is worth far more than running around sticking your dick in everything for a year, trust me on this one... even better that she wants it often, it keeps me going through the living hell of this world every week.
3. Risk seeking behavior is stupid, literally and measurable. Intelligent educated people take fewer extreme risk actions. Physical, financial, relationship, etc. Can't afford the cost and time to raise children right, smart people have fewer children, just look at the ghettos and Elon Musk. Notice how bikers racing in traffic and riding on one wheel are not engineers, doctors, and inventors at the top of their field?
Manipulation implies I didn't want it. I do agree with what you are saying don't feel like it applies to me
I was 12 and I already had my period, had tits, hair etc. He was older. We knew it was wrong in that he could get in trouble. Why it was a secret. But I wanted it. I started it. He was caring asked with each new thing we tried if it was ok. Could have been farse worse. Funny part out of my friend group I have only been with 4 men including my step dad. Most of my friends are sluts they run through men during their teens and 20s. Feel like he protected me and cared for me. I think if he was my biological dad it maybe different. At the time I loved my dad and sex was just a bonus on that.
I was 12 and I already had my period, had tits, hair etc.
So you were a child that had just hit puberty.
That your stepdad was willing to fuck you at that age also shows that something was wrong with him, again he finagled things so it felt like you were the one in charge in your mind and he was gentle with you, avoiding you wanting to rat him out.
Sure he was cognizant of not wanting to traumatize you, but he did sexually molest you.
What if it's you doing the manipulation and traumatization right now. Ever thought about that faggot.
I know that isn't the case though, so I'm not worried.
You're just butthurt that I am exposing grooming methods.
Sure I mean that's why we kept it a secret. We didn't have sex for a while I was a teenager then. We did just oral and fingering when we started. And when we did have sex we did anal 99% of the time. Having condoms was risky and we didn't want to risk pregnancy. I don't view myself as fragile. I wanted it. So if not him it would have been some other guy. Maybe he would be worse. Least my step dad was loving. That applies at any age.
Studies show otherwise. Being told you're a victim is traumatizing and damaging.
You asked whether there is something wrong with it. I answered. Why people have a greater primal revulsion against one than the other is a different conversation. But I don't see why a primal revulsion against a damaging thing should be suppressed, just because some other damaging thing doesn't have it.
Well okay, but being delusional about sex between adults and kids possibly being good is even more damaging.
Realizing that your abuser fooled you and feeling traumatized by that is unfortunately needed to get people to understand that condoning sex between adults and kids is wrong and bad.
Everything has a risk and award attached to it. If you're a sane person you live in accordance with what the reality of each situation is.
Because society seems to be irrationally against pleasurable things.
how can we change this?
just watch the tv show Intervention. Every alchoholic every druggie. Every fucked up hooker you see has been either rap#d or her dad / brother / uncle / grandpa etc fucked them as a kid.
Dont be a fucking sex offender retard
Speak up against insanity and get others to do the same.
Code?
*reward
Is there actually something wrong with just like having sex with anyone you want, like your daughter, or enjoying yourself in general, assuming no harm caused?
ask this guy, also you are a retard with the "assuming no harm caused". This does not apply here because harm will always be done in this case I don't care what mental gymnastics you go through to defend your retarded opinion
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Its a cultural thing, mainly. People look down on it because of the chances of getting a retardbaby. But if you're not planning to breed her, she is of legal age and she's into it, I wouldn't judge. Just make sure to film it and post it on Anon Babble so I can wonk my willy to it or I will judge you and dispute your family's honour so you have to commit sudoku.
harm will always be done in this case
Clearly bullshit.
I don't know but I'm assuming it's inbreeding, which isn't the topic.
Clearly bullshit.
incest often leads to traumatic bonding it fucks with how you present yourself to others and this has been PROVEN to be true in most cases, but OP just wants to fuck his sister or some shit because he cant get any other girls to pay attention to him
yea, this.. we're designed for village life tho, not all of this isolation
I don't get this. Yeah they were raped in almost all cases. If it was a stranger, someone they knew or a family member means little. I had a good experience with my step dad sexually. We still talk to this day things are fine. I'm happy. But society tells me no bad. But if I told everyone I fucked 7 random strangers this week, people would say it's empowering. My friends who did this are all single still into their late 30s. It's crazy what society tells me what is right and wrong and why I always kept my secrets.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
All sex is morally wrong regardless of circumstances or purpose. The age of consent should be raised to 125. Condoms should be coated in a suspension of pure capsaicin, on both sides of the latex, to ensure both parties do not enjoy themselves. Vaccines cause autism.
Nah, you fucking your stepdad at 12 is bad and you fucking 7 randos in a week would be bad.