Leftards wrong again, big mad, much faggot
Leftards wrong again, big mad, much faggot
Awesome, bought a bunch when everything was down, starting to make bank today....
Dow +2612.38
wtf I've never seen it increase by that much at once. wtf happened?
Trump paused tariffs for countries that came to the table. China is fucked.
Old pumpy dump Trump manipulating the market with his wish washy weak tariff bullshit, still wiped out years of gains yet retards are gonna be saying look at all the green as it struggles to get back to where we where and trust is lost in a stable USD, this has turned into mafia economics for retards and I love it lol
lol, you have no idea what you're talking about.
So you're just admitting that you don't understand tariffs, the strategy of using them, how the stock market works, how the US dollar works on the world market, or really anything at all. You're just a brainless leftard still repeating "orange man bad" like a stupid faggot.
I don't think they really understand the repercussions of what trump is doing.
samefag retard
wrong
forgot picture
Great job, you proved you can post from a phone. You still don't understand tariffs or anything "Trump is doing". You obviously don't have any money either.
understand the repercussions of what trump is doing.
explain these "repercussions" then
he's super cereal about these tariffs. it's about bringing jobs back
you didn't pay attention to the art of the deal, it was just a negotiating tool
Other than an erosion of trust in America?
Again, you show that you have no idea what they are for, how they work, or what effect they have.
it doesn't matter what he does anon, if he was on the whitehouse lawn raping a 6 year old with a knife their only reaction would be 'he is just sending that innocent child to heaven quicker!'
yes. he's not eroding anything btw
You leftards sure love your "muh fee-fees" arguments. Work out so well for you in the election...
still samefagging, and embarrassing himself to boot
he already did
let's start with a basic question that no MAGA really can answer, who pays them?
source?
Anyone that wants to buy tariffed goods. Nobody is forcing you to buy them.
In a way, yes, it is about "fee-fees", that's what trade is about.
So, when someone goes around claiming that countries pay for it, what are they doing?
That's absolutely not "what trade is about". You may buy things based on your little feelings like an effeminate, impulsive twink, but the rest of us don't.
Leftards wrong again
he backflipped on his tariffs are you stupid
but the rest of us don't.
What do you buy that doesn't involve a feeling?
Countries do pay for it. Governments are involved in large scale industries though loans.
Countries do pay for it.
Not really anon. The importer pays for it, the countries suffer for it.
Add in dates and more frames for each time. I wonder how long it will get before the end of Trump's presidency.
It's hilarious that you think your memefail shows anything but the fact that you don't understand anything. The tariffs worked.
You left out that it only happened after realizing his tariff policy was terrible and having to reverse it
Shill agitprop nonsense. This was always going to happen implicitly. Not out fault daddy made it so you can't trust anyone.
He left many in place too. Why would he do that if it was so horrible and ineffective?
So, don't import it.
Countries do pay tariffs
no, the companies which import goods into the usa pay it to trump and they charge that extra cost to the consumer (you).
When you hear someone on tv saying the other countries pay a tariff, they're lying to you.
Hey what is this doing to our bond rating?
So answer the question, when someone is saying that countries pay for the tariffs, what are they doing?
Are you aware that the US is the only country in the world that has to pay all the tariffs?
Lol no.
He isn't "aware" of something you just pulled out of your ass.
Art of the meme
No, you just don't understand that multiple levels pay for tariffs. Your thinking is one dimensional at best.
Lol yeah. Trump used the tariffs to negotiate. You're simply stupid.
The tariffs worked.
the usa lost tillions of dollars
peoples 401ks were gigafucked
apple lost 500billion alone
that's not art of the deal ok that's mismanagement
The countries do pay the tariffs.
Your thinking is one dimensional at best.
it's just the truth about tariffs but you should do your own research
Don the Con pulled the tariffs again. What are the odd this is all an insider trading scheme by the ones pulling Trump's strings?
Stop lying
Nothing you said is true. You obviously have no idea what a 401k even is.
No, you simply don't know what you're talking about.
Trump blinked
The countries do pay the tariffs.
i know you think the usa is amazingly powerful but no, trump can't just sign something which forces other countries to pay anything to him. what he signed makes people within the usa pay tariffs, they're domestic.
Nah, you just don't understand what a tariff is or how it works.
logfat detected. later.
But left many tariffs in place. So no, didn't "blink".
Lol no. What do you think was gained?
I accept your concession that you're talking out of your ass.
you should ask chat gpt about tariffs maybe you might believe that since its also american
who pays tariffs?
can the usa force other countries to pay tariffs?
when the share market loses trillions of dollars, are people's 401ks affected by this?
ask questions like that
It's a tax, that importers pay.
Reduced tariffs on US goods going abroad.
And the importers can be governments.
ask chat gpt
Yeah, I can see why you sound like an idiot.
Reduced tariffs on US goods going abroad.
anon, the usa has had free trade deals for decades with almost everywhere
that means no tariffs, free trade has no cost to americans imposed by the other country
sure, the importing country could pay it. Someone that is fat and stupid as fuck is going around saying exporting countries pay it.
Lol no. There were no tariffs on the US.
There are extremely heavy tariffs on US good going into most countries. That reduces the amount of US goods sold to those countries. Just STFU, you're spouting shit.
I wonder if putin's got a lot richer than he already was over the last week...
I suggested chatgpt because its something an idiot can do to get an easy to understand answer in another tab. you don't want to know the truth. the truth hurts you doesn't it. the usa is in decline because you're electing billionaire idiots who run the economy into the ground. you will pay more than us for everything you buy from now on. trump is pissing in your face and you're too much of a bitch to do anything but thank him for it. good luck with that
You're fucking insane. No wonder leftards lose everything when slapped by reality.
There are extremely heavy tariffs on US good going into most countries.
google free trade agreements with the united states
lol, the amount of cope from this fag is priceless
Oh yeah? You think Germans have to pay an extra 100% on Chinese goods? Every country in the world can trade with every country except the US without tariffs, but the US can't trade with any country without tariffs. The US is the only country that has to pay all the tariffs.
It forces them to sell products cheaper if they want to sell them at all. Companies that import foreign products en masse have to choose to raise their prices as well, which isn't a guarantee unless you're a tiny shop whose owner lives paycheck to paycheck.
What tariffs existed on the US before Trump's presidency?
The US is the only country that has to pay all the tariffs.
Trump can pull the tariffs though? He just did that.
Canada imposes a 300% tariff on US dairy products. There's one.
He can't pull the retaliatory tariffs. All he's done is fuck you.
That's just not true.
factcheck.org
Every country in the world can trade with every country except the US without tariffs, but the US can't trade with any country without tariffs
huh? Are you trying to say that the US is the only country to be tariffed?
Seriously what is this all doing to our world debt rate reputation? Are we tanking our risk rating? Are we becoming a bad bond risk? Are we going to have to pay more to service our national debt?
I think it's currently relatively unchanged, but if rates keep climbing it could become a bad risk.
factcheck.org
You leftards really love your bullshit fact-checkers
Nah even though Daddy Russia was one of the few to not be tariffed Putin and Saudis mad it’s tanking oil prices which is all they have
Are you illiterate. If the US puts tariffs on China then only trade between the US and China is affected. China can still trade with the rest of the world, just like they did before. Now repeat with every country Trump put tariffs on. The US loses. Everyone else trades with each other.
You trumptards really like being wrong.
sorry I didn't read the full chain. I was confused on the wording there.
Yeah fuckin leftards wanting facts n verifiable evidence n shit nah fuck that science shit bro next they’ll be going on about climate change n how that’s gonna fuck mah murica!
Trump cancelled the idiotic things Trump did
nuh-uh Canada only charges that rate on some things, some times
hurrr that means it's not true Drumpf is a liar
Fucking faggot.
I'm not sure if you fully understand what a tariff is. It's a forced price increase on foreign imports to encourage consumers to purchase domestic alternatives instead. The increased price is paid as a tax to the federal government. Trump can control these, but he cannot control tariffs other countries place ON the United States. These retaliatory tariffs encourage other countries to stop trading with the United States entirely and find other buyers in different countries. Which would mean the tariffs imposed by the United States are pointless if there are no foreign imports at all.
And so much in this country is made using foreign imports and materials that it's shitter shattering everything. Even if he announces the tariffs are gone for good today, that won't erase the tariffs other countries imposed on the US. The consequences are still there.
Yeah, you keep posting that, and every time you look like a fucking moron.
Ok. Explain them now.
Except your "fact checker" is leftwing nonsense. You're a fucking fool to argue using that shit as your base.
I'm not the one who sunk your 401K, Cleetus.
strongest economy in the world
that had been decimated from its highs by joe biden
word games is all you have, apparently.
I don't understand trade deals
We know
My stocks are doing just fine. Market is shooting up. Bought a lot when it was down.
facts are leftwing nonsense
You sure showed me.
no u
OK, you've been beaten. You can stop yapping now.
I'm waiting for you to explain why destroying trilions of dollars is a smart move
You didn't post any facts. You posted "aktually" nonsense that still proved my point correct.
Lol all you've done is show how ignorant you are. Canada never had 300% tariffs on US dairy products.
Maybe read the news about him backing off and giving the majority of countries a baseline 10% for 90 days.
Which has increased trust in the markets.
I.E. Trump pussied out.
How was it destroyed? If it was destroyed, how did so much magically come back this afternoon? Idiot.
No he was forced to do it by his peers. The US couldn't sustain a day 5 of losses.
Ok. Then post a correct right wing source on the claim
magats being played like a fiddle, as usual
Lol you can't actually be this retarded, can you?
Nah, he's doing just what he was always going to. It's called trade negotiations. Stay mad.
Except, millions of people took advantage of the dip and bought stocks. It's the smart thing to do. Which is why you can't comprehend it.
markets manipulated, lot of people in washington got richer today. economy will still be fucked because of the china tariffs though.
It went up again when Trump said "ok, tariffs were a joke" and reversed his retarded policies.
No they don't, wish Americans would actually read up on what tariffs are instead of spewing out this fantasy world they think they are in.
If that was the case, I could ask for 10,000 ford cars from the US and say there is a 100% tariff on them... what would Ford do? Pay the full price for me so I get them for free? Because that is what you believe would happen.
The importer pays the tax as soon as the goods land on US soil, he pays the Tariff sheet, and what he paid is put back onto the price for the next entity to buy the goods and so on, American consumers ultimately bear the full price and pay way more than usual.
You do know the stock market is open for all people to buy stocks, right?
There's still many tariffs in place. You're just a blabbering, mad leftard.
Yeah, tell me again how a broke appalachan redneck is investing in the stock market
want's people to think he can successfully time the market
You must be worth billions
"stay mad" are you 10 or something? He was told off because he was costing his senior puppeteers a shit tonne of cash.
For 4 days the US market lost close to $10trn. It was unsustainable and close to a depression start.
how many millions did you make, Mr. Smart?
American consumers ultimately bear the full price and pay way more
According to Biden, they were already doing this without the tariffs, and he wanted to ban it.
Many such tariffs tovaritch
Yeah. That's why the Orange Orango erased more than 1 year of stock market gains, spglobal.com
Tariffs are a tool to tell people to sell high and by low.
The reactions will be analyzed for future tariff wars.
America could be rinse repeating every 3 months.
does your discord pay you in furry art commissions for posting this nonsense Lilith?
ah yes, let's play dumb and pretend we don't know what insider trading is.
you tried /*
Here is the problem the American consumer are the ones creating the deficit.
Why?
Because Americans do not trust American manufactured goods at expensive prices. Simple as that.
Until the US can fix that issue, there will always be a trade deficit.
Tariffs are a tool to tell people to sell high and by low.
The reactions will be analyzed for future tariff wars.
America could be rinse repeating every 3 months.
ok so you should look up what a tariff actually is
this tactic will not work again because new trade agreements will be formed, with stable countries, mitigating the unpredictable usa trade. it could even lead to the usa dollar no longer being used as the main trade currency. it's that bad.
absolutely agree that in the future there will be economics schools who look back on this but maybe not for the reasons you think
tariffs = stocks down
no tariffs = stocks up
sounds exactly what everyone was trying to tell MAGA
Because Americans do not trust American manufactured goods at expensive prices.
Are you stupid? It's because Americans can't AFFORD to. The trade deficit exists because we have fiscally irresponsible people who like to print trillions of debt to stimulate the economy. And remind me, what percentage of stocks are owned by the ultrarich again?
What's your point with that retarded meme? Trump did both of those things by adding and pausing some tariffs and not others. In your leftist world, you leave the punishment when you get what you want?
ITT: democrats show they don't understand economics, and are too stupid to let go of Trump hate no matter what good he does.
Another simp take. The markets aren't the entire economy, fucktard.
I made about $15,000 today.
Anyone remember the "Misery Index?"
I think it will suddenly reenter the cultural lexicon soon.
What good has he done?
The market represents the view of how a business will operate in the economy.
Listen, step out of the fantasy world you are in.
Americans aren't buying American cars for example because they are overpriced, not safe, break down easily and cost a lot of money to run. Japanese, Korean and European cars are reasonably priced, they don't cost much to run, safer and are well built.
And yes they have less money to spend because of the economy of the US where people are fooled to also take overpriced insurances for everything leaving them with little. But that is what finance is for right? Do you think they are buying foreign cars with all cash? No.
Why lie? You don't buy shares and instantly sell them a few hours later, that is impossible. Especially for people like yourself who aren't professionals with access to stock controllers.
So stop lying.
dow down $5000 in one week
back up $3000
Trumptards call dow down 2000 a win
meh - I "felt" that something was going to happen and sold my VOO at 556 a month or so ago, then put most of it in a money market
bought some back in at around 500 the other day. It closed at 499 today.
The problem is, you need to have cash to buy in and if you were already invested, you don't want to sell when it is down so where is the cash to buy more.
Sure, I always keep 10% or more in cash, but when my other 90% drops 15% getting in with my other 10% doesn't feel like winning.
Also, Russell 2000 (the index that tracks smaller public companies) is still down 20% since the election.
Pot...meet the kettle.
Bull trap.
Dip didn't matter.
It only affected upper middle class and wealthy people in any meaningful way.
???
losing 5% in a week is good?
Left says tariffs are causing market chaos
Trump pauses tariffs
Markets recover
So... the leftists were correct?
Wow, you really have no idea what you're talking about. I press a few buttons on my broker website. I'm glad I don't have to give a fuck what you say. Enjoy never seeing another democrat in the WH again in your lifetime.
You have tariffs on us so I'm going to tariff the fuck out of you in retaliation!
No Donald no! I'll remove my tariffs to make your exports more attractive to my country!
I mean... Won't that create jobs? It makes U.S. products cheaper for consumers in foreign markets. Removing U.S. tariffs makes sense if other countries remove their tariffs. Every country that's offering Trump zero tariffs is proving that his strategy is working. China is the only one doubling down.
Not all tariffs were paused, so no.
ITT: leftards pretend they understand the stock market
I honestly can't tell if Americans are significantly dumber than I'd realised, or if half of the USA is just really committed to trolling.
No countries had tariffs on the US before Trump's presidency.
market crashes 50%
market recovers 60%
trumptards think this means the market is higher than it was at the beginning
KEK
it is when it is done in the name of dear leader, at least for the retarded cult
Stop lying already, it isn't as simple as that. You effectively lied to strangers to make yourself feel better about yourself, the problem is it doesn't exist and you aren't that good. How very very sad of you.
This would make sense if the Trump tariffs had in fact been tariffs based on penalising countries who were messing with free markets.
Instead he just based his tariffs on trade deficits.
you have to remember that canada having a tariff on american milk if it meets a certain threshold that has never been met so canada can keep making it's on milk and not kill it's own industry to buy american milk so they have their own supply at all times is fucking over america to trumptards
If you traded under $25k you are subject to only 3 day trades per 5 day period. If you bought shares through a trader then there is time frame limitations also.
You did lie.
No 5% of Americans on each far side of each political spectrum are spastic clapping pretending they understand but don't. And are too busy pointing fingers at each other to even learn the basics.
Stupid twats.
The narratives they accept are genuinely insane.
Tell me you don't understand SEC Regulation T without telling me you don't understand SEC Regulation T
Obvious Republican is obvious
British actually, and I just told an obvious Republican hating Democrats that they are wrong. So how does that make me an "obvious republican"?
Are you a window licker?
If you traded under $25k
Not him but you just need over 25k in equity in your overall account, not 25k per transaction. This is standard day trading stuff, the regulators figure if you don't have at least 25k to play with you probably shouldn't be playing.
There was a basic 2% for most countries before Trump. Both back and forth. Trump's Steel, Aluminium, Solar Panel and Washing Machine tariffs did start it all in 2017 correct.
sell US SPX 500
buy WALL STREET 30
fuck fuck shit is going up way slower
Don't see where he said he was using unsettled funds for purchases, trading accounts have a mix of cash and stocks in them, how else would anyone do day trading?
not even on that but based on chatgpt and using a retarded way to calculate things
Conservatives aren't smart
I'm sure anons have already pointed this out, but It's worth repeating: the stock market surging because of Trump's 90 day pause literally just proved "leftards" right.
Libtard saying a Earnings per share of 38 is completely normal, fucking market is overevalutated since the last 5 year,
i have large cock desu
But that is what finance is for right? Do you think they are buying foreign cars with all cash? No.
People aren't buying cars in general because they're too fucking expensive. Even the used car market has been getting really expensive. On top of insurance and interest rates increasing too yes. Debt delinquencies are already really high and rising. Like IDK what else to tell you man. People don't have the money no matter how many tariffs you slap on China, Japan, Korea, whatever.
It literally is as simple as that. You're a fucking retard who spouts about shit he doesn't understand. You're dumb and arrogant, which is why you leftshits aren't in power anymore.
Nobody said I "day traded" you stupid fuck.
You don't know my broker, you don't know my time frames. You can fuck right off, you ignorant, jealous leftard shit.
No, it didn't. Keep lying to yourself. It worked out great for your side in the elections.
ITT
you're wrong because... you just are, k?
Gee I wonder which companies will be the winners and which will be the losers?
Sure. The "both sides are the same" narrative is from the Republicans. If course you know this already.
No there wasn't
Kinda fucked up that liberals are unhappy that the economy isn't doing as badly as they predicted
stock market drops under biden
AAAAHHHH HE IS DESTROYING THE ECONOMY!
economy bounces back after trump stops doing the thing to cause the drop
He is a genius, losing 10% in the stock market is a strategic move
Just watch in a week they will scream at the top of their lungs how the stock market dropping is a good thing after dear leader does another retarded thing to cause another major drop
It's actually doing about as badly as I predicted at this point. Yesterday, it was much worse.
Kek see you in Trump’s next retarded move
What can I say anon. I love being right.
Why do stupid Trumpshits think "the left' is retarded?
Project much?
"orange man bad"
Well, he is.
What kind of dumbshit thinks that traitor is good? For anything?
I love being right
wing
your fat orange asshole literally fired over 100,000 people you fucking bitch
things are not good
because they think trump is a genius and reading is for fags
nah you see him firing people whose job to make sure everything is on the up and up is actually corruption because they don't worship the ground dear leader walks on
Trump proven right again. Leftists predictably salty.
But people are buying cars and foreign ones. Look at last years sales and the years previous for the last 10. It is clear to see, Americans have no faith in American made cars.
trump is right by recovering 6% after dropping the economy by 15%
so what is it like drinking his piss after he assures you it is lemonade?
Pure rage and seething from being caught out. Stay a liar fatty.
Trump imposes tariffs
Stock market crach, recession incoming
Trump pauses tariffs
Stock market goes up, recession less likely
Oh gosh golly gee, it ALMOST looks like tariffs are bad!
you have to remember that americans will gleefully stab each other in the back and cut corners to all hell with an ounce of power but still think that their products are totes better than everywhere else as they buy even cheaper chinese shit
Yes there was. America has 2% on goods entering the US before Trumps tariffs in 2017. European nations, Asian nations all had 2-3% also.
Right now the EU is 3% still the only good larger than 3% is US Cars.
Here is the problem with your statement, Trump lied to people trying to push this China makes just fake goods, that is a lie, sure there is a counterfeit market there just like everywhere else even the US.
But the majority of goods from China is electronics and furniture. And none of that is fake. Cheaper =/= worse.
A good chunk of US goods however are cheaply made as much as possible to sell higher than possible for maximum profit. And Americans are no longer dumb to it all and understand they are being shafted, which is why they buy foreign which is cheaper to buy but better quality overall.
Lol no.
Trump cucked out like the pussy bitch that he is
lol yes. Here is the rates until 2016. When Trump got into power the first things he tariffed at 25% were Steel, Aluminium, Solar panels and Washing machines. Solar Panels from China had 30% tariff attached to them in 2018.
flipp flopping
raising prices
is banning this piece of beautiful art from being displayed in the US
free speech is dead
Oh wow you don't have feelings, like a real tough guy. You're a fucking moron.
my point was that americans scream 'buy american' to all hell but will buy the cheaper option every single time without regard to quality, it just so happens that most foreign shit is better quality overall because they have actual quality control due to regulation and not shit ass american standards for product production
man does retarded thing that caused a 15% dip
stops doing retarded thing that causes a 6% rebound
it's a mystery
go back to muh egg prices.
I was getting used to it.
haha he posted it again hahaha
yeah its the same image
LEFT CAN'T MEME
I love how leftist have nothing but vague ad hominem name calling. You're ridiculous.
What a surprise, a leftard that has the take of a 10 year old.
It's weird how you leftists are obsessed with naked pictures of Trump. It's almost like you're homosexuals who lust after the man that constantly humiliates you.
unironically yes, even a 10 year old can see this retardation trump is doing
you people are obsessed with naked pictures of trump
spends months posting pics of trump as big hunky muscleman
Nah, but keep singing that song. It outs you as the brainlet you clearly are.
I never saw that. Only homos like you must be interested in that type of thing.
trump backs down on tariffs because of phone calls he was too scared to answer
oh yeah so much winning there anon
And yet you can't explain it. You just have empty platitudes and crying. FFS, you've been crying for literally a decade now. Just STFU already.
we never posted pics of trump as a big beefy hunk it was just the libtards!
lol it is hilarious how trumpanzees can easily alter their memories
I was wrong so I better just make something up to have something to spout
Yeah, that's why you lost little guy. Try reality for once.
what are things only a homo would say for $100 alex
Your daddy donald is a faggot bitch, only good for sucking jew cock lmao go kill yourself you fat piece of shit
no u
We get it, you're wrong and upset. Just let it go. Nothing you say matters anyway. You're finished, and so is your political party.
you can't explain it!
yes I can, putting universal tariffs on every country in the world to the point where he is putting tariffs on islands only inhabited by penguins based on chatgpt math is sucks for the economy, the stock market takes a shit for almost a week straight and then he backs down on them after being too much of a pussy to answer phone calls from other countries and the market bounces and now you retards are dancing around the bounce all 'wooo we are up 6% after a 15% dip, so much winning!'
Oh well, another thread where leftards cope and seethe, having been proven wrong over and over, yet still screeching. It's good to win. Thanks losers.
you libtards are wrong about trump's tariffs!
lol no you are just so stupid you think tariffs on penguins is a good thing
yawn, you should be embarrassed to spout nonsense like that, but you leftards have no shame, so whatever.
bouncing back less than half of what you lost is winning!
I got nothing but nonsense I heard on msnbc!
better REEEEEEEEE louder
lol, this is hilarious
market manipulation
yes it is nonsense that trump put tariffs on penguins
theguardian.com
you got that from msnbc
how much of msnbc do you watch and how often to be able to know such a thing, assuming it is true?
Yeah, I get it, you don't understand anything. Stocks go up or down, you're still going to yell and cry your stupidity. Trump won. Just KYS already.
the guardian
No wonder you're so ill-informed.
Define it. Because you're wrong.
you don't understand maaan, getting back 1/3 of what you lost is totes winning
anything I don't like is fake news
yes dear leader said so we know
it's just a cohencidence they bought the dip during a massive recession and the general public buys from them.
and the timing is impeccable. literal hours before announcing to reverse the recession policies! that's so cohenvenient, lucky guys!