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KING AND QUEEN
Would you rather
1 week of unlimited sex with every girl in otk at the same time, zero refractory period, instantly regenerated & always full cum, but at the end time moves back one week and they forget everything
Or
A Hyoon girlfriend
emiru cheated on miz with asmon and still got salty that he dumped her, she wanted the bread and butter in the relationship, having multiple boyfriends, one for sex and the other for gaming and late night discord dates
This
Emi used mizkif cheating on Maya to keep him silent
There was no cheating she got with asmon when they were broken up already. Miz seems happy and so does emi, be happy for both
Very fucking cute :3
bonnie vs nmplol
post clips that demonstrate bonnie seriously going against nmp without being a bit
gyoon gf
Any nick Discord activity
Nick should refer to himself and Bonnie as veteran streamers, that would shut her up rq
why would anyone want hyoon gf? ignoring her amazing body, she's dull, uninteresting and boring
wait this is actually adorable
he didnt cheat, he ended the relationship right when he saw that he lost feelings for maya, which is how everyone is supposed to act to not cheat on your partner.
the one whos in the wrong in all this is emiru going after a guy that had a girlfriend, i know maya moved on and has a boyfriend now but shes letting herself be used by emi for personal agenda when we know she avoided her for years. this shit is so fake it will blow in their face sooner or later and the next one is going to nuke the entire austin area. miz might not realize that yet but leaving that place now might be the best thing that happens to him. screenshot this and post it again in 2-3years
emi rejoined
ee best
because sex
she was spending all her nights with asmon while dating miz when she moved in discord and also goes on dates with him after the pod. asmon doesnt start raidiing you exclusively for 3years straight if they werent close like that. shes such pick me that she would literally have multiple boyfriends each one for a specific task, this for sex, the other for emotional talk ect
he emotionally cheated
you know its true
You can say emotionally cheating sure but not physically
she clearly has a phone retard
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and you can see her reading the text
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im also having a hard time believing this isnt some kind of method acting to farm attention
Did emi have any chat joins after she ended ? Or was it a emigold night
Lol did they delete the thread because they couldn't believe there was multiple shizos in here unironically essay posting? I can arrest that I was one of them lol. Anyway. I'm reposting this read from a LSD user from last thread, a real opinion from a real Nick viewer :)
Enjoy
My 2 schizo cents on the Bonnie VS Nick thing, and this is talking as someone who has watched Nick for years and has almost 10k posts in LSD.
This stream was a breath of fresh air, finally someone who can stand up to Nicks bullshit in a serious non-jokey way unlike EE and Cinna and tell him to his face how it is and how unlikeable his behavior is, seriously he has slowly become more and more unwatchable since Katchii has been around (though I actually do enjoy Katchii, she is funny and pretty cute). If that dude is not talking about his poop, or moaning about hate threads, talking about money and his divorce, making some weird joke about feet etc. he basically has no material. The dude needs to change the fuckin record already...
Also I'm fairly certain one of the reasons Bonnie doesn't like him is that she actually has life experience with men like Nick and can see him coming from a mile away. She sees the older man and younger girl and feels for Katchii as Nick is extremely controlling and the power dynamic with her moving to live with this big streamer will be totally fucked. Did you see that clip that other schizo posted about him tracking her down at the nail salon or wherever? If someone did that to me that I was in a relationship I would run for the fucking hills. Though I don't think she is cheating.
W Bonnie, hope she roasts the fuck out of him more but knowing how soy Nick is, he will probably make sure they never interact on stream again.
nmpfrogs, bonnie walks in your room just like this
wwyd
fanfiction and no clips posted for proof
the increase of foreign faggots hitting this thread with chatgpt paragraphs is awful
well duhhh of course bro, youre acting emotional cheating is not as bad lol, also if asmon was a small streamer she wouldnt even give him a glance, mizkif fucked up by dating her. but i understand that he fell for her if she was trying to seduce him non stop. learn the lesson kids, never mix business and pleasure, mizkif himself gave you this advice, he didnt follow it.. now hes paying the price
although i agree with the first half
Katchii literally said nick will regret teaching her to be independent when he explained why he doesnt want to help her cook
what price?
I mean it’s not as bad to me and who cares? miz has moved on and seems happy and emi seems happy with asmon, let them be
Yeah, this idiot actually projected Bonnie's ugly ass ogre who paid for her sex, to the gradual relationship that katchii and Nick built on similar interest and chemistry. Sorry Mr all knowing 10k LSD bro but intellectual bipartisan dishonesty is beyond me, the dynamic isn't the same at all, the age gap is nowhere near the same and katchii is 25 year old woman. Doesn't check out.
Oh, and last I checked I don't think katchii or Nick asked for her femcel opinion and unwanted projection regarding her disorderly past and drug addictions and ogre boyfriend. Nobody asked for her to have opinion there, neither is it needed. Bonnie has nothing of worth to offer katchii regarding Nick, she is more broken then pitcher of shattered glass, her past issues with older men are of a different nature.
Also, katchii wanted to live with nick, she's the one that pushed for that. Unfounded railroading assumptions are unfounded.
They deleted the bra clip off emis page :(
he could have changed history
- Homewreck one of the biggest league streamers on twitch
>gets away with it
- baiting a groomed minor by trying to save her from a groomer just because she wanted to fuck her so she groomed her in return
>gets away with it
- homewreck one of the biggest streamers on twitch relationship
>gets away with it
- Joins the same org of that streamer and gets close to the next biggest member of that org causing an org homewrecking situation
>gets away with it
- one of the biggest botters on twitch that bots every single metric of her streams (chatters/ logged in viewers / non logged in viewers)
>gets away with it
- Sexual assault happened in her house by her best friend, she covers for him and stays friends
>gets away with it
The Gods are watching.. Karma is something i believe in
shes so fucking ugly its hilarious
I do think you're overreacting and maybe a little insane, but the idea that Bonnie’s deliberately sabotaging the relationship—while being all extra sweet and touchy with Katchii just to get her into bed—is kind of interesting. At Cyr’s party, you could literally see her cringing or turning away in disgust when Katchii was humping Nick.
get filtered fag lol
Reverse the rolls, imagine if it was a dude acting this way? He'd be shamed to hell and back for being obsessed and feeling entitled to another person's affection and holding opinions of their company and relationships lol. Bonnie a fucking incel born female- a femcel if you will.
It stems from some sort of prejudice. Like "she's to pretty to be with him, she deserves better" or maybe she's just racist :) or maybe she's just projecting her own ogre creature onto Nick and katchii, either way she should fuck right off. None of her business. Hopefully katchii and Nick are describing to each other the 100 different ways they can avoid this crazy obsessed maniac.
esfand said he is planning some IRL this week with a girl he met like a year ago at some creator event that is in town this week and that asked to hang out.
followed around a year ago
last story update says "austin, texas" about 9 hours ago
she's a asmr streamer
last stream was may 18th, 2024
fucking esfand is so desperate for content he puts on everyone that is willing to stream with him now
it has been 4 months now and i think since palmbee got there in december he has had put on 5 or 6 different girls.
Honestly if emiru was actually ugly I would respect her a lot more. Imagine being mid AF and still be able to gaslight the entire internet into thinking you're a goddess among men and becoming a multimillionaire because of it.
are you basing this all off bonnie sitting on her lap. you realise girls are touchy like that right especially buzzed at a party. never once saw bonnie calling nick out and watched that entire stream
Maya has no self respect holy fuck! letting herself be used by the girl who homewrecked her for a personal agenda after been isolated because of her from many things in austin for 3 years
Wake was with Rob at the start of Rob's stream
Miz MIA
Public holiday in Japan
Shankif day :3
Bonnie has been a long time viewer of katchii since she started, and she's bi. She likely has a crush on her and developed incel like hatred for Nick because she feels he doesn't deserve her, purebred incel think.
Why was she hovering around katchii only in particular like that? What was she saying to her? Why is she aggressive towards Nick in particular? It likely all stems from her fanatical obsession with katchii and having a belief in what she oughta be doing.
its a bit you retarded fuck
just the fact that she acts with him on stream like she doesn't know him should tell you all u need to know
nmp and malena had been one of the first people she hung out with when she got to austin
if she talked about nmp, if at all, it was always references to events that happened off-stream i.e. nick taking bonnie and esfand on test-drives when he bought the escalade before esfand decided to buy one as well etc.
apart from that has bonnie been over katchii ever since katchiis first days in austin last year
fucking esfand streamed for 8 hours at 1.3k average
got a the asmon raid
got a emi raid
inflated his average viewership to 2.8k
Any miz activity or actually mia?
Yes it was so funny when Nick called Katchi a clout chaser and a fleshlight at his disposal. Hilarious.
Yeah, and those interactions off stream were likely all filled with negativity and she likely acted similar if not worse, that's why they never pushed to collab with her and mention her. Today's stream shows us why that was. Also, katchii hovering around katchii getting all touchy feely and sitting on her lap off cam during the party a few days ago shows that she isn't over her and feels entitled to her affection actually. She's trying to sew doubt between her and Nick actually, something Malena would've chewed the shit out of her for and exposed her like the fake character she is if she ever tired that with her. Katchii is sweeter than that though so she could have influence.
CHAT CONTROLS MY STREAM
I WILL BE A REAL NPC
EE bros, what should we make her do? spam show pits?
Did anyone found who he Is?
Everyone except Bonnie completely brushed off katchii comments and just moved on. Even Cinna—of all people—didn’t bother pretending to like her like she usually does, which says a lot. You can literally see it when Cinna mentioned Emi and Bonnie being invited to the cookout, forgetting Katchii entirely. Katchii just smiled at the camera, and it was Bonnie who said, “I’ll invite you to the cookout.” Honestly, if anyone deserves sympathy here, it’s Katchii—not Nick.
that felt like similar to the nora love or host
Today's stream shows us
so there should be no problems on sourcing some clips, right? right?
Mizkif really is the main character, does they know that this is his story
fly to germany,and start a content house with the legen Mister arther
I mean apparently i wasnt obvious enough but the hilarious was meant ironic. Thats just no way to treat your girlfriend. Nick is an asshole.
ure retarded srry bro get a life you taking this shit from people that are 100% fake on stream way out of proportion, how have you not learned that by now especially after the stunt bonnie and esfand pulled hiding the fact that she is moving out for months until the very literal day before she announced it.
Cyr is trying these weird turmeric dandelion drops for his liver just so he can continue drinking, he's definitely going to get cirrhosis one day especially when Peach dumps him soon
his doctor said his liver is enlarged and since he is a hypochondriac he got a little panic attack and stopped drinking
but then started again and now copes with dandellion drops?
bro it might be gg for him in the near future
Yeah, actually. Here's a clip of katchii being pissed off after Bonnie said "esfand says you're a nice guy but I never believed him" and this was after an hour of bullying already and many more uncomfortable moments that even nicks discord thought were bad (they love it when he gets bullied and call him a fat ass 24/7 btw)
No, I’m agreeing with your sarcastic comment—because some guy is so focused on defending Nick’s character that he’s completely ignoring the covert humiliation Katchii just went through.
There’s a reason she went quiet: she realized no one was actually listening. She realized she was just a pawn—something to get Nick on a stream, not a person they actually cared to hear.
how the fuck are they till talking about this shit?
LSD freaks are on another level
Asmongold: If you use a power against someone else, the only thing you need to do to have it used against you is long enough.
Also Asmongold: It's good that they don't get due process.
Here's the clip in its full context btw because I know you're skeptical. Look at how uncomfortable everyone is with how Bonnie is acting towards Nick.
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(Link has timestamp no need to seek)
ok, you're clearly neurodivergent or have face blindness, so I'll explain what most of the normal people see: katchii is amused, she smiles with her mouth and her eyes, she is not pissed off.
also, i'm still waiting for bonnie going against nick or standing up to him or whatever you schizos think happened
They are fucking pathetic. It only took one person to make a couple of jokes about him to have the whole of lsd spiralling
most of you are < 25 year old women right
so, there's thing called 'dry humor'... look it up, you might understand bonnie a bit more
That's something different. We have Bonnie being unaware of the camera dude showing up being affectionate with katchii, and then a day later we have her treating her boyfriend like dirt acting like a scorned incel towards him the whole time for no reason. Many things are fake, withholding information about moving is one thing, observing human interaction dynamics is another. Only so much can be faked and drama occurs occasionally naturally if there's issues.
Use your brain, stop conflating basic concepts.
everyone is uncomfortable
Not even katchii, his own gf, could say he is a nice guy.
although he is neurodivergent
katchiii does this fake smile to hide negative feelings
If you watch there shit enough you will see a pattern of her doing it
watch the eyes, always watch the eyes, that's how you spot a genuine smile
for the cinna schizos:
cinna ended stream earlier
because she wanted to repair her phone that got dunked in alcohol at the party and best buy closes at 6pm so she had to go
at around 7pm
jasontheween called cinna on his stream and she said she is strill trying to fix her phone (hmm sus)
she also lil bro zoned him after he was hitting on her looks like they still dont know about jackthecuck even though jason showed that on his stream kek (picrel)
and last activity before bed
looks like cinna went to sleep a little later than usual:
02:10:08 Users joined: cinna
02:12:26 Users parted: cinna
for comparison:
[22:21:44] Users joined:jackthebus
[22:48:41] Users parted:jackthebus
and i believe he said he would stream but didnt
and cinna said maybe no stream today so might be another double off day for them
she even said on her last stream she went on a date and of course her chat doesnt believe her
one anon believed it was friday the day before the party where both took the day off
maybe their 2nd anniversary if that wasnt in japan
how fragile and dependent are they on nick?
its kinda scary
what if something else in their life doesnt align to their routine?
My goodness hop off the copium. After Bonnie made that comment the room went silent, and this continued on for the whole stream. Just watch it, reverse or forward the video and the bad vibes are continuous lol. I could post "clips" but it would just be redundant, the whole stream is a clip just watch it. You're one to call me neurodivergent, you can't pick up simple social cues like social unrest or unease due to some manic girl berating some person and slandering their character on stream.
Katchii is good at hiding her emotions btw, a small and a pour is all you're going to get whether angry, sad or happy but if you can read subtle cues in the face you'll see frustration or at least unease. I have no way of describing this to you, it's either you get it or you don't. I cannot help you read a person's face, that's a you problem.
as a writer, these threads are absolute gold
i honestly couldn't imagined in a million years the way some schizos here view reality, it's so alien to me
...being unable to read social cues, emotions, not understanding banter, taking everything as being dead serious or adversarial
thank you based schizos, you make wonderful characters
Earlier in the stream she said "he's very nice off stream" in a very enthusiastic way, she started dog piling later after having had read the room and stopped complimenting him, especially after he made the comment that she was "disposable" she internalized that 100% she's a fragile woman and so that was her way of getting back.
Women will internalize small comments like that for decades, she for sure held a grudge because of that. No matter how minor.
*waits patiently for someone to post pictures of autistic mixed race qts*
honest question do these book writers use ChatGPT?
or are they by themselves write all that shit to defend nmpDiddy
never been to his discord but maybe its just their culture
I liked it better when bonnie knew she was a nobody and hid in her room, this emi is my best friend roomie era is just displaying her giant ass cunt tendencies on full display. I piss on esfand for ever bringing this mentally disturbed d grade porn star into the Austin orbit.
giant ass cunt tendencies
for example
The only thing Bonnie did that stream was speak facts and Nicks whole ass brigade off mentally ill schizos is losing their minds lmao.
Thought you were based until you clearly took a side by saying I can't take social cues when you have to be blind and dead and stupid to not observe the clear bad vibes given by Bonnie in that stream. YOU'RE the one that can't understand social cues.
how are regular 4chins schizos less crazy than these lsd creeps?
I agree—but that Bonnie-hating schizo is definitely overreacting. Still, there’s some truth in what he’s saying. Bonnie clearly thinks Nick’s kind of a jackass—Esfand had to reassure her multiple times that he’s actually a nice guy, and you’d think that only happened because Bonnie prompted it. She was being overly combative for the stream, but this dude somehow turned into a lifelong hater over a single stream.
Nick, just pay your ex what she deserves
for the first couple of years in bonnie's camming career she always persisted that her birthday was on may 5th. at some point she switched that and started saying her birthday was on december 26th, day after christmas.
bonnie always took the week / days around the 5th of may off ever since she started streaming on twitch
no you
stop projecting anon is right yall just massive nick nut huggers
I had to buy a phone just to make a discord account of course I'm pissed off
Look at how I made a humble observer into one of us :) the power I hold. Now you're one of the characters.
again you don't get that bonnie and nick have known each other for years. nick was literally the first person that bonnie met in austin when esfand picked her up from the airport. she told all these stories 2 years ago, at some point she just stopped talking about anything off-stream.
Miz at dinner with Shannon. Posted on his IG story
She met him once, because she's fake she probably acted like a completely different person towards him, then ghosted or stopped interacting with nick, or maybe she was turno toxic, we have a few moments of Bonnie being caught on camera looking disgusted towards Nick when no reaction would be necessary for example (cyrs party)
Anon. I think she might just be an unpleasant person.
id rather read Dani and his lover going at each other than these lsd freaks writing novels defending their sociopath streamer nmplol
Are people actually butt hurt that Bonnie dared to show some push back of Nick's perverted ass
we have a few moments of Bonnie being caught on camera looking disgusted towards Nick when no reaction would be necessary for example (cyrs party)
i keep hearing about this but i don't see any clips or screenshots.
one guy
She met him once
are you actually dumb or why are you trying to bait with this retarded shit?
apart from the countless offline stories she told over the years, she happened to be at the same streamed event that nick had been as well.
lsf is in support
we dont care
stfu useless commie piece of shit
Good for him :)
Anon BabbleKadde-
a known bonnie and esfand schizo
kek gtfo
some retard that tries to instigate schizo bullshit on LSF, great source anon
no, push back against nick is great, it's the fact that the annoying mentally disturbed lying former camgirl that pretends she never was a camwhore is the one that did it is what is bothering people.
How was the fishing stream? Couldnt watch it because it was too late for me.
Guy must’ve hurt you considering you remember his comments from 2 years ago.
been around way too long to easily recognize the usual suspects
he is reference when katchii humped nick at cyrs party after peach then phin asked if bonnie wants to go next
thats when she looked disgusted
So May 5th is Bonnie's actual birthday then? December 26th was the "stream birthday"? Makes sense, her real name is also
Hadiyah
this used to be the schizo thread
have you seen the other thread. oh lawd
guys im starting to think emigold is made up by trolls who just try and farm reactions on here while laughing at you from a discord, just a felling you know?
Ofc, just never reply to emigolders
yeah honestly just let them respond to each other
no im a shipper, roachgang
Does anybody have the clip from one of katchii's very first streams where somebody in her chat asks her what her body count was and she answers "1.5" I remember seeing it when it first was uploaded but cannot find it again. It needs to be saved for future reference purposes and some dank ass memes :) trust brothers
unlucid.ai/r/n0b2vhfd
the other thread is so shit
Yes, and people go on and on about Mizkids, I'm sure none of Nick's hugbox discord are harassing Bonnie right now.
So Bonnie gave Nick a bit of his own medicine and it caused some diddy simps in here to have a meltdown?
I'm starting to like Bonnie more. She's been a good addition to the girl house.
in here
more like everywhere
rping as a shipper is cringe
no i really like them together, no troll
Jesus (tap dancing) christ
Dandangler in miz chat ruin my no fap month
Did their corporate owners force them to date for engagement farming? No cute girl would willingly date Cyraxx McChipmunk.
I Love Them Man :3
matching jeans omg bro so cute
He’s does that on purpose kek
check lsf
another retarded dramabait microtone take upvoted by dgg
All is well with the world
i know, he leaves only her hands or something so only his community knows :3 hes not even trying to farm her for content, he just enjoys her presence offstream which is something he never had with other exes because they were for content
Emi looked desperate and sad with the Maya shit and my goat did not falter he didn’t crash out and didn’t care.
hes not even trying to farm her for content
He's farming her by posting this stuff.
He hasn't fumbled her yet Shankif is not over
I thought so too until he posted that selfie of them at the con on his account marking her territory. She can see his stories and by the looks of it doesn’t care.
:3
Emi's bitter ass inviting Maya to her stream for the first time in 3 years to get a reaction out of Miz meanwhile he just wants to chill with his girl in Japan
One of the girls in lsd, just emasculated a main plaqueboymax / Faze orbiter
x.com
whys there just tied up trash bags on the right?
More like Emi has no reason to blacklist Maya from her party now that Emikif is over.
we might actually get the emi alveus stream. thats crazy
maya gonna train her goats to be extra aggressive
How would you care about anything else with that to call your own? Shannon the type of girl that the world could fall apart but if you came home to that smile it would all fade away. She saved him :3
japan culture ig
extra emily viewer for sure
I'm surprised that
a) He still acts like such a whiny miserable bitch after finding out she watches his stream
b) She's still around after seeing it
thats cope but i would love to see it
Both Maya and Emi seem to be over this drama and have moved on with their lives. An Emi Alveus stream and Maya cosplay stream would be nice. <3
y'all sperging out about "austin healing" and maya being on emi's stream and all of that, little do you know that these people always party together, 99% of the attendees of that party are also on that yearl boat party they always throw in austin.
idk how the fuck she thinks miz is such a catch that shes willing to degrade herself by being the most obvious rebound ever
It's all a grift. Cinna talking about how people should cutoff Asmongold then inviting him into her home.
Miz is somehow the most genuine person in the otk circle.
True. They probably already hung out off stream. But it's still nice that they're chill on stream now too. That's more collab opportunities for viewers.
Learn how to make a girl laugh, it goes a long way.
3 years ago in Korea she was giggling at everything Miz said. she might have always had a crush on him. she likes his humor
Cinna didn't invite Asmon. That was Emi.
Emi didn't invite Maya. That was Cinna.
Maybe they can all just act like grown ups and not hold grudges over stupid lsf drama?
Emi and Cinna's communities merging is a good thing.
Here’s the thing I always wondered about Miz is that he’s somewhat the same on camera and off camera since he started streaming because of his friends and dating partners. He really hasn’t gotten a chance to turn it off until Shannon. She does not watch streams, does not care about viewers, twitch tracker etc. maybe for the first time in a long time he can be someone other than Mizkif longer than he ever could. That’s the person she knows so she can tell when he turns it on for the camera.
One is a nazi the other has some petty boyfriend drama.
hes not even that funny anymore, quick wit at times sure but he almost always resorts to cringe whether it be on purpose or not in the moment, and if you have payed any attention to how he lives his life for his whole career hes just a volatile person who demands control like a raging toddler the moment he snaps
Don’t come at me but wouldn’t it be funny if Emi gets tricked into dating Asmon just like Tectone did with Sophia? All to get back at Mizkif.
Bro is so mad he’s happy with Shannon you can’t make this shit up kek
atp I'm just waiting on the shitshow for when miz and shannon break up, I have no faith left in him maintaining relationships so this will be fun
He's shown some growth in Japan and has a greater seperation between work and relationship with Shannon.
emi had mizs twitch tracker on auto complete and the first thing she did after ending stream was view her stats.
One is a nazi
Throwing around the word "nazi" at everything you don't like just makes you sound like a moron with no knowledge of history.
why are you talking like you aren't a virgin?
Chat reflects streamer and chat is full of Nazis.
did u watch his recent stream compare to before.
He used to be obsessed about twitch and make inside joke all the time.
More he spend time offline, better the streamer he become.
I actually watched those vods recently and you’re right no wonder Gaze Shannon became a thing in the community. The observation haki with her was strong back then.
Miz understanding that the less he is stress, the better streamer he is.
This mf finally understands it.
She might not regularly watch streams, but she watched the drive-thru stream where he was being a miserable prick. I'm guessing he just told her it was an act for stream.
Emigold is schizo fanfiction, but if it were real: How would Emi dating Asmon have anything to do with Miz? Emi seems to have completely moved on, Miz is dating a new girl and Asmon was never close to Miz.
Jesus I just realized she went to go check his stream stats immediately after ending didn't she
Holy fuck she actually has a problem
Tbf he also looked much better back then which might've helped. Nowadays it's 50/50 whether he looks ok or like a complete ogre
any timestamps from the korea vods??
Hopefully he keeps the plan of treating streaming like a 9-5 and having the weekends off. He for sure got that idea from Shannon.
Yea bro, been this way for a while.
He can’t keep getting away with this
objectively speaking this was not the case for nick
miz seemingly only has 3 days left in japan, be interesting to see if anything happens with shannon after that, not jumping on board unless thats the case
Is this what led to the botting we get today?
Nick just stopped streaming to scam Malena. Nothing to do with stress.
Pretty sure Miz was already botting at that time.
Emigold is sooooo dead
Now there's only Emi is a pedophile who grooms 17 years old kids
kiko is my favorite
he must have made some good investments because this break will effect him so much even once he comes back. cant see him ever being a 20k andy again
He seems over streaming. Probably just waiting to marry katchii and have kids.
she is nice, but peegu is annoying drama faggot.
Who knows but I think she will either visit or move to LA. He is planning gaming when the Switch 2 comes out so we might get cozy gaming nights with Shannon on a Discord call for a few hours.
yea i dont really like him either
he said katchii's only with him because of his status.
hes gonna have to maintain that shit if he believes what he says on stream
Didn't she try to flirt with a bunch of different streamers at the beginning? He's probably right. Imagine if she leaves him after he tanked his career to stream on her chanel.
We are way passed the rebound stage he’s been with Shannon since he went to Japan 3 months ago. Rebound could had been Fia tbf
ask if I can sniff her feet
Of course he’s right, but status isn’t the only factor. It’s the experiences he gave her during her first visit—everything was all-inclusive. From the Nora shipping, to the constant flirting with other women, to using his stream as a stage for the push-and-pull dynamic—and, most importantly, the food. I don’t think Katchii’s attraction is malicious or manipulative—it just natural atraction that women have to men with status.thats what the means
Will Miz and Shannon cry on their last date together? Shannon crying on her vlog when her friends leave her because she’s lonely hurt. Miz you asshole you better not fuck this up.
I guess the Emi, EE, Nick beach trip isn't happening anymore? At least with the Italy trip being sponsored we know that's not getting canceled.
Yeah Miz won lmao
why make shit up both cinna and emi were very kind, affectionate and welcoming to katchi all stream and the whole flashlight joke is tame for nick remember cinna and emi have enough time around nick they just ignore his shit
"He said" that's where you lost, you cannot take his word, nick always lies. katchii is obviously in love with him, even yesterday after he was a piece of shit for 2 hours she kept walking over to him and standing next to him, it's the same all the time, she is obsessed with him, even took a risk to kiss him during the party and got caught on camera. I'm pretty sure she knows he has already net negative clout, being with him barely gives her any views anywhere and just brings more collateral hate. She does not need his money, and still she stays with him. The only way she will leave him is if he fucks up big time somehow which we know he is too lame to ever do
rebound was probably clara tbh with all those leaks before he went back to japan but then she went to japan so maybe they're fuck buddies or something idk
When is Emis next stream? Tuesday?
So these news Katchii received maybe has something to do with traveling? She said they might travel again in may before the Philippines trip. Maybe it's about that.
all those leaks
i luv them :3
why even post this shit they are dating they do couples stuff together off stream we know bro we know
this segment sums up what that guy was schizoing about
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Bonnie brings up the stupid shit Nick said
Immediately hugs her for 20 seconds straight
Bonnie: I’ll take her instead
Nick says "take her"
Katchii: "I’m at your disposal," right?
watching Nick’s stream right now is so fucking uncomfortable and not in a funny way. the guy’s emotional intelligence is garbage—especially knowing women don’t forget that kind of shit.
immediately hugs her for 20 seconds straight
Bonnie: Ill take her instead
nick says take her
Katchii: im at your disposal right
Watching nicks stream currently is so fucking uncomfortable, the guys emotional intelligence is horrible.Considering women keep that shit in the head.
there was like 3 separate incidents that wouldve been used as proof for emikif back in the day lmao, like i said tho probably a rebound
Julia is objectively the most beautiful Twitch streamer in Austin at least
Emi used to hang around League pros, Mizkif, Asmon and Tectone. Cinna streams with W community and Faze members. They absolutely don't give a fuck about Nick being edgy. You need a thick skin as a big female streamer.
probably a collab with a famous competitive eater
strong hunchback bitch > OTK stickbugs
Jesus, I fucking hate when people say this shit
would have been used as proof for emikif
The shit you're talking about was not what was ever used as proof of emikif, it was just proof of them hanging out
net negative clout, being with him barely gives her any views anywhere
The only reason this girl is above 1k viewers is Nick. She's his alt chanel and he buys the bots for her.
Just because she’s with him partly because of his status doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him.
His status gave him the means to create the experiences that drew her in.
If anything, I think it’s Nick who doesn’t love Katchii,judging by the way he acts around her.
Tuesday or Wednesday. Wednesday is probably more likely. I hope she drops Demon Souls and plays Expedition 33 instead.
It really isn’t though and they are dating
Emigold is stronger than ever and they were together literally last night and the pedo stuff was always Mizkids
hanging out then not even mentioning it in the slightest, ok bro nothing happened you're right
cute friends <3
Ok thank you
Miz goated
all of bonnies friends have seen her asshole online
Did emi really rejoin nicks discord ? So pathetic if true
cringe
I’m not saying they were outright mean to her
they just completely ignored everything Katchii said.
I’ll give Emi the benefit of the doubt since her default is doing nothing,
but Cinna was clearly focused on going at Nick and made no effort to acknowledge Katchii at all.I know its cringe im not a katchiii simp im just making an observation.
people can't put together than her pre-austin 10k viewer period was just residual Nick viewers from when he still had 20-30k. My only hope is that Nick comes back to the same amount of viewers Katchii gets now, he needs to be humbled.
Tbh, nothing Nick says in those clips is that bad. He's just being a little edgy and Bonnie is acting overly sensitive. Meanwhile Emi doesn't give a fuck at all, lol.
and all of emis friends have seen her censored leaks of her spreading her cheeks
watching Nick’s stream right now is so fucking uncomfortable and not in a funny way. the guy’s emotional intelligence is garbage—especially knowing women don’t forget that kind of shit.
Watching nicks stream currently is so fucking uncomfortable, the guys emotional intelligence is horrible.Considering women keep that shit in the head.
why do you repeat the same shit using slightly different words?
There is no way nmp and katchiifags are still spiralling over nothing
anyone who thinks nick loves her is retarded he broke up with malena after 10 years started farming dating content then met katchi and asked her to move in all in the space of a year kek this is pure rebound
wrong second like
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AI
comparing a whole career to one censored illegal image is a huge reach, weirdo
I’m assuming it’s bots
Why is that pathetic? He's her friend and you're on Anon Babble talking about her.
still true.
They actually a thing? Been away for awhile till I saw maya at the party
what you talking about cinna was talking to katchi all stream laughing and joking with her it was cute why you trying to frame a narrative
*link
It's almost like Emi, Nick and Cinna have been friends for a long time, while katchii is only there cause she's Nick's fuckdoll. Nick could replace her with another model tomorrow and nobody in Austin would give a shit.
No, it's bait
yep
No? Are you just making shit up?
I was about to mention the fucking jeans as well. How could you leave Japan and not come back to her?
no, it's trolling
Omg that's mindblowing. Someone that's only ever hung out with Emi and Cinna a handful of times and only in group settings is not friends with them? What do you expect?
He would be farming tf out of her if she was willing
That’s exactly my point, it was painfully cringe to watch, and she put herself in such a weird situation. The embarrassment alone if it doesn’t work out could be enough to make her quit streaming. Nick is basically telling her to break up with him every stream. It’s like watching a car crash in slow motion. And honestly, you kind of get the vibe that some streamers like Emily and Arther(especially arther who said this directly for her to hear ) secretly want things to fall apart just to push Nick back into grind mode.
I can tell you are from his discord Lol
She was saying she would so was just asking if she did ?
They are dating and emi simps and Mizkids try to say it’s bait despite the evidence
So you think I assumed they were friends just because I expected them to at least acknowledge or try to make content with the person they’re collaborating with?
smart
He will come back to the states and she will stay in Japan. They are on borrowed time idk how yall are putting stock into it
Like these guys are either Mizkids mad she upgraded or emi simps who hate she has a bf
Lol, EE is definately bitchy enough for that. She seems super competitive with smaller female streamers and even with Emi in the beginning. Watching Cinna overtake her has been so funny because of that.
Even if they did break up, I don't think recovers viewership. People kind of felt sorry for him when Malena left, and then the divorce stuff came out. Doing a rehash of single Nick will not hit the same.
emi had mizs twitch tracker on auto complete and the first thing she did after ending stream was view her stats.
Recently?
Streaming was gonna be a phase for her anyways. She would've quit by now if she wasn't with Nick.
Seems like you can't tell shit. Classic bitter mizkid.
Yep, the way he handled that divorce killed all the good will he had. He should have just paid 50% and get the divorce over with as quickly as possible.
whats the line up for today any interesting streams?
Oh no he woke up already. How was your nap?
No? lmao man emi simps are next level deranged
Is there any big evidence?
You are mad about a streamer joining another streamers discord. Time to check your obsession with Emi and move on.
most emi simps are ex mizkids that dated her through him but eventually thought they could treat her better. after the break up they obsessively hate him because they cant escape the hold she has over their lives. sad really
You can tell she was coping—Cinna gets a lot of likes on Twitter, and that clearly got to her. She even asked Miz for advice on Twitter during that one stream in LA after the awards, and now she’s got what she wanted: 100 million views a month on Twitter in 2025.
Be careful what you wish for
be Emily
have access to Mizkif who made dozens of careers
sleep with his best friend
live with his Mod
live with the Queen of the W community
ATT show with Emiru
will never be 20k Andy
How is this possible? Why aren’t her discord simps helping her?
No, because it's a discord of Mizkids trolling and inventing rumours about Emiru cause they're mad that she dumped Mizkif.
They got caught on lsf for brigarding multiple times now and Tectone spoke up about that deranged fanbase before.
because lacks the passion for streaming with constant ditching and just smokes weed with her pothead boyfriend
How am I hating Mizkif by calling a mizkid a mizkid?
Why aren’t her discord simps helping her
they are, they keep sending her tshirts with 'looking for social media manager and video editor'
but she ignores them all
emily "if she 15 I'm 15" schunk
Shannon’s day off for the holiday and is spending her day with Miz. She would make time to hang with him after her 9-5 job. In her YT post she said she will post the vlog later because of “life yknow”. She sure is showing her interest by her actions.
goose
Weird. Well I was a deranged mizkid and I didn’t do allat. Excited to see if Maya and emi can be friends now though
It's amazing how far she's come with sheer determination and a heavy OTK push despite being uglier and more annoying than most other egirls.
Shirley she moves to the states with him
even if they just stay friends, theyve been hanging out a lot and hes leaving japan soon so it makes sense theyd spend a bit of time before he goes
miz bots dont translate into viewership, simple as
dont worry she will be getting track now that emi is the queen of twitch she just needs to stream more
she not ugly, and personality (even if fake) makes up for it
miz is probably rewatching emis vod to make sure he didnt miss anything
I’m sure she edited her vlog today while Miz streamed today since I think they hung out the whole weekend this time.
Hi Messi, on a scale of 1 - 10 how deranged are you today?
If this doesn’t prove that Emily isn’t as much of a clout chaser as people make her out to be, then I don’t know what does. It’s obvious she mostly streams what she actually enjoys.
she not ugly
kek
Emis been the queen of Twitch for a while now where u been
how much are they paying you?
shes just on the grind now that she feels she has to prove something
Multiple Double dates, messgae everyday, same sleep schedule. Him always going out of his way for her and no one else, Discord calls at nights and gaming off stream. Only been dating for 4ish months so it is new and a secret so we can get what we get
lmao, I forgot about him watching the streams on Cinna's and katchii's chanel to not be on Emi's viewerlist.
one thing is to be the queen of female streamers
other thing is to be the queen of female and male streamers
personality (even if fake) makes up for it
LMAO, her fake personality just makes it worse
This is the emi simp I told you about who deny emigold becasue they think they are dating emi, this is them forming a brigade to Reddit and twitter lmao
Lsf is braindead, but that guy is somehow even more pathetic than reddit. He has the "soldier" role in nick cesspool discord. Which you get if you dedicate your life to defending Nick in reddit or twitter. Actually pathetic
Lmaooooooo his twitter account is easy to find to
post the messages
post the discord calls
oh wait
All the world needs to achieve world peace is for Shannon to move with Miz to LA or NY or even NJ
God man I'm fucking PRAYING chat, is it fair to doubt the kid right neow
how much are they paying you?
i was thinking about this yesterday. like in the goodness of your heart you want to believe that some of the people here are paid for the amount of time they spend obsessing over otk and the reality is they do it for free. real schizos, real obsessions. it's sad.
lately her "fake personality" has been fading and she no longer dares to do cringeworthy stuff, either shes grown self-consciousness or she just cant bother to fake it anymore
maybe miz doesnt see her like that?
Is Shannon the girl that Miz keeps saying hes in love with?
i still dont get why people try to argue that ALL these streamers dont have dedicated schizos that will defend them everywhere
oh, tanuki is in norway now
The last day together is going to be rough for them. We thinking they confess their feelings or do we think they are already dating?
Miz keeps saying
and there lies the problem.
Who has emi ever even increased viewership for as a streamer?
bro there is no way that you are this dellusional
i thought everyone talking about shannon in here was just baiting but it looks like some are the ones who bite
That'd be the actual fumble of his life ngl
A normie who's down to do everything with him, and if they do move together to the states she wouldn't have to worry about her job
well she has said that he is very nice and affectionate off stream and there were also many streams where he was very patient and affectionate towards her. He has also done many things his fans never expected him to do for her. Not sure about love (from both sides) but he obviously likes her a lot
You just don’t want it to be true I wonder why? Kek
asmons latest follow, at around 11pm
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Honeydicked, same as he did to Malena
You can't be this far on the other extreme of the spectrum
All he would have to do is take her with him and he definitely has the resources to do it
lmao this dude
Delete this
the script is already written unfortunately, miz keeps bringing up L.A, nothing to do in texas... Goes back home and doesn't move because he's lazy and comfortable, shannon is forgotten about apart from 3 offline chatters gazing her every stream
yeah she seems pretty career driven though so unless she starts streaming the nick/katchii way, i dont see it happening
More like she ruined a lot of opportunities by clout chasing too hard and making herself unlikeable to a lot of communities.
If she'd been nicer to Cinna when she was a small stremer, she'd be closer to her now that she's big and could leech.
If she had been nicer to Emi instead of farming shipping content with her boyfriend, maybe some of Emi's viewers would give a fuck about EE now.
If she hadn't droped Miz for Nick immediately, maybe they'd have done more content together once Nick droped her for Katchii and mizkids would still give a fuck about her.
No shot vro
how retarded you have to be to think that the reason why people think that she wont going to go to the USA is resources lmao
do you even watch her vlogs? lmao
her vlogs already get more than miz latest video (lol) and plenty of dedicated simps so she definitely wont be forgotten
What do you mean lol
She can get a much better job on the states one that makes her happy not depressed like in Japan and she could achieve it with Miz's help
Lmao, that is not me you retard. Messis schizo mizkid discord got leaked 200 times by now.
well time will tell about that, if they survive long enough
we wont she shannon again... in japan
miz has been mentioning moving to L.A for 5 years now because he's bored of austin, it never happens and there's a 0% chance she moves to austin
Was posted yesterday and it was right before emi ended and it means nothing
i actually love how asmon and emi are super comfortable and secure in the relationship
its not like the toxic emikif where one doesnt allow the other to dress the other way and then in retaliation the other has to blacklist other women for their stream
This girl was posted in mizs Reddit btw
So what's your reason then? You saying there's nothing between them? For real?
I gotta say his taste in women is fucking horrible
Shannon is stuck in Japan guys she won’t ever go back to her family in California. She was dating a guy in Korea and she’s only in Japan because of her job that she can’t quit. You guys are funny she can leave whenever she wants and now she might have the excuse she was looking for.
shannon might as well be dead after the japan trip
lmao
she has done cringe shit in her last 5 streams
and this upcoming stream is going to be filled with that shit
Lot of time has passed vro
Everyone doubted he would be in Japan for even 3 weeks and he's been there for 3 months
Yes it is you, Zenben88.
Eww
one doesnt allow the other to dress the other way
jesus the shit she wore on miz's streams... lmfao
So you're saying there is zero evidence? Got it.
No he followed just before 11, after emi ended
Wouldn't*
maybe miz will take his 3rd hapa girlfriend to meet his parents in NJ soon :3
Katchii just doesn't really know how to operate in a group setting like that. Ofc they gonna ignore the random +1 moments when she says the most random shit ever, idk how you could take that seriously. Also nobody is gonna simp and coddle her the way Nick does. The idea behind the cooking was pick something you want to/can do and just do it. They even offered her to cut potatoes and she cut 1 half way and quit and Emi had to finish it. They also gave her a pan to make some pancakes and she ran around holding it and performing smashing gestures instead for like 15 minutes.
what has gven you the impression that emily is clout chasing cinna if anything she sees her as competition
brought a stripper to the car dealership
Cinna and Bonnie (and Nora, but she should have moved in to make it last)
the whole point is miz schizos are willing to do things to actively impede people who wronged him, like coordinating fake narratives or calling police/places their visting, swatting their homes, etc.
yes it can be done independently as well, but one off individuals are different than people who coordinate hate campaigns & swatting people.
Will Shannon move to Austin for Miz?
can anyone with skills slow this down?
yeah i never got this narrative that he made her dress a certain way lol
no you are right mr retarded we are discussing if miz and shannon are able to buy a ticket plane
that is the only explanation why shannon wouldnt go with him
maybe you should donate do them
Hell no. Her family is in cali
* LA
and sounds like a yes in her vlog
fake narratives
That's were you fumble
Mizkids have never pushed fake shit
On the other hand everyone pushes fake shit about Miz and mizkids
Asmon be creeping on everyone’s socials at night
so your basing that off the ONE discord screenshot of those retards trolling? that shit happens to EVERYONE. fake narratives? brother...
bonnie tried to finish it then emiru finished it
if miz leaves with wake on the 8th and his last stream is the 7th, there's only one or two more shankif days :(
? Dumbass
temporary maybe, but LA is definitely long term plan
Her mom probably was asking her to move back when she visited.
LMAO disgusting
Shannon is stuck at dead-end job
or
Date a wealthy manlet and no more dead-end job that recently is broken by a clout-whore, whore, succubus, gold-digger, thot, creeper of 15 year olds
Just people being retarded from those leaked DMs
just another false narrative made up by simps
hope mizkif hangs from a tree the other way too
strange that there was no Reddit or Twitter post about Nick degrading Katchii yesterday when he called her disposable etc. That would have gotten quite a few likes.
Shannon is stuck at dead-end job
What does she do anyway?
She was the same with dyrus she defended him on twitter for bragging about pornstars following him and him watching porn. She is a degen gooner herself
Like from his feet? That be cool ngl then land like spiderman
Bonnie is averaging the same viewcount as before and cinna's trajectory is the same
Emi hasn't increased them at all
LA
and if they they chose to date it will be similar to him and Maya. she will see him on her off days and take weekend trips to Austin or Miz will visit whenever he can. if it gets serious Miz will probably move to LA
Mizkid discord users coming out of the woodworks
imagine waking up early to bait shannon to other 3 shannon baiters
Yeah okay buddy lmao
yup, where miz never mentioned how she was dressed, only her cutesy drunk behavior
Asmons latest escort pppppffftttt
HOT
ty
LSF is dead, it's mostly retarded political streamer drama now
There's the narratives vro
This is why Mizkif will never be cancelled again
that would cement the break up being sooner than later
maybe bonnie but not cinna unless they collab cinna still has her same numbers
Office job
hed probably just see all her coomer shit posted on twitter and roidrage out.
Sure, keep following that dude. I don't give a fuck.
Nope just likes to goon like any man
booh
More like its the reason nobody will like mizkif again, but hey if he can humbly accept being a small streamer who has nothing but those types of degenerates watching him more power to him.
That's not saying much
Her posting pictures in a cosplay that made a bunch of people think she was announcing an OF is a little different than what she wore around him
are you dumb?
So you're just jealous I see
Sad, don't reply again.
Think he ever goons to emi? Ik for a fact lacari does
The only Shannon baiter is literally Miz lmao
yeah a thirst trap "cosplay" that even you could admit was pretty suggestive
saved. that expression she makes is hot
does mizkif ever leave your mind? just curious
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Imagine if emi hangs with her
nontent demon
remind me what was her google search about a boyfriend?...
look how the narrative changed from never controlling her to sometimes its ok
spent most if his trip with her, say not just him but everyone around him
some bait
hot but oh my fuck she is annoying
Based on his likes of course but he also gets to fuck emi
he is the most successful one i give you that
Keep telling yourself that, everything has already been found.
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wasnt she the one to say that she wouldnt post that cosplay because it was too lewd? yeah...
Yes, she was clout chasing bigger streamers and not giving a fuck about her small streamer "friend" and that's one of the things biting her in the ass now.
miz bagged a queen and that makes you mad for some reason
Emi herself when she bought the cosplay held it up on stream and said this is not something for wearing in public
Another queen, will this one stay in her ivory tower?
and some of the emi simps are still mad that shes with asmon. they just are miserable people that want everyone to be as miserable as they are
Cinna went from 5-6k to 10k after she moved in.
How is Miz bating? he’s been consistent with Shannon and he’s the main one posting proof on main.
no the google search did not say that
and we now know that not to be true even more
didnt she also say that about this pic? oh well
bonnie's ccv is going up. now back at 2K and she's in the top 0.02% again. i think her best ranked ever was around top 350 US, top 950 in the world. also all her socials are gaining being around cinna and emi
Kinda crazy that this is what ended it
not surprising they really are spiteful people
Wrong. Bonnie went from 2k to 3k and Cinna used to be stuck at 5k even with all the LA clout chasing. Now she's a 10k streamer.
who are you talking?
emi simps
who are they? why are you so obsessed with them? are they in the room with us?
didnt she also say that about this pic? oh well
yes but she is single there so a pretty significant difference
Proof? you never post proof retard, post proof, you never will, you mentally ill deranged loser.
Bonnie had 2k a couple months ago, she fluctuates a lot. Cinna has boosted bonnie more than emi, into'd to a new audience and cinna has raided bonnie
Now she's a 10k streamer.
LMAO No she is not. Once she stop doing big group streams she will be down to her normal average.
thank you for proving my point about how he was controlling how she dressed in public i guess
denims will never hang with emi, denims is top 3 hasan orbiter. she 100% hates asmon and anyone close to him
coomer and simp farming is in her dna and miz was a retard for thinking she would ever stop even in a relationship
It's funny how he tried to say he never spends money on egirls and his whole chat was kappa-ing him. lol
They didn't forget Kaise.
i am curious how long they can keep that shit up. i know cinna is a grinder but emi and bonnie idk
bonnie streams can jump to 3-4K but the overall CCV is 2K(this is what sponsors look at to determine how much they will pay the streamer), which is great because she dropped to 1.4K at one point while she was in Japan
She dressed like a prostitute when she would go places with him...
Bonnie went from 2k to 3k
she was lower than that even
now she gets these numbers playing a walking simulator with black cum
Mizchads eating good with Shannon and any other girl he will get shipped with and the Emi simps fighting for their lives against the Asmontards for all of eternity.
True. But I feel like she fed him that bs. Look how she used to look and act when she moved in with him
She isn’t single
Facts.
Bonnie has to, she has to pay rent now
Emiru's a criminal botter
federalcharges.com
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Theft by trick, deception, or fraud, including con games, scams, insider trading, fraudulent credit card products or programs, and other “schemes” of a similar kind, which involve misrepresentation.
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State jail felony. Theft of $1,500 to $20,000. 180 days to two years incarceration and a fine of up to $10,000.
3rd degree felony for theft of $20,000 to $100,000. Two to 10 years imprisonment at the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and a fine of up to $10,000.
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People were clowning Miz for having less viewers than Swamp Ass Emi while after he was done streaming he had a cute date night planned with Shannon later that evening followed by back to back cream pies at his place. kek
yeah and she made tiktoks wearing latex bunny suit before ever meet him
he got controlling deep in the relationship when his depression and insecurities crippled in
thats why asmon is the best fit
not when she does a solo desktop stream its her normal 5 to 6k
What if I told you the asmontards are the mizkids
any other girl he will get shipped
yikes
Normally when you're collaborating with someone for the first time, you at least try to riff off them. But Cinna in particular seemed to be making a deliberate effort not to engage. You could see it in how she interacted with Asmon at the party; she came off as uncomfortable and standoffish.
But I guess not every streamer is like NMP, who actually tries to make guests comfortable before he starts pushing their buttons.
To be fair, Cinna’s seemed a bit self-conscious lately.
constantly adjusting her hair and stuff
So I’ll give her some leeway.
No, Emi is not plastic enough for that degenerate. Thank god.
You started out ok but then the second part is just a fanfic, c'mon now
he was doing this with oxi too