Remember when the world thought this guy was a genius?

I remember when the democrat elites were on their knees, blowing him, to get a Tesla and have the feeling of moral superiority over everyone else because they thought they were saving the planet. I remember leftist scientists saying he was the future of space exploration, praising him.
I remember them all getting pissy with him, taking back everything they said just because he switched political parties.
I remember the Biden administration refusing to let him rescue the astronauts stranded in space because he switched political parties.
I remember the party of peace vandalizing their fellow party members' Teslas because he cut government waste, started calling him Hitler.
Tl,dr: I remember lots of things.

Uhm, he originally promised a TRILLION was going to be saved. Where did that action go?

cut systems people rely on. they now have to pay more for alternatives

fire federal employees without proper handoffs for their work. case loads get shelved/dissolved

If his plans are so good then why do they only work by removing experienced staffers and replacing them with 19yo yesmen? He** needs to explain the logic behind it.

I've created and ran three businesses, now do consulting for startups.
Every one of my businesses failed due to external forces of market, over taxation, and being noticed by established corporate competition. Had one national mega-corp convince a supplier it was "conflict of interest" and "contract violation" to sell equipment to me a startup "competitor" (e.g. done dirty like Delorean and Tucker).
Here are some business facts.
99% of businesses fail, no matter how hard you try. Most successful businesses "failed" but had family wealth and affluence to prop them up and continue like Musk.
People become more interested in your business after you closed up and sold off all the assets. This is due to "familiarity" and not as customers or clients.
I've gotten into arguments over this one: People give the destructive advice of "you should sell this", I tell people giving that advice to BUY... they never buy, have never run a business, and that is why they see false "business potential" because they have no experience. If YOU are not willing to buy it then you have ZERO standing to declare a product salable.
What I offer as a consultant is guiding through the taxes, permits, and laws to start a business. I missed a few on my first run, which were easily amended, most people miss a lot of the regulations and their businesses get shut down. Them failing is separate to my consulting, and I contract and invoice to the person, not the business license, so I get paid regardless.

honestly still is but all the media attention on him has done some image damage deserved or not

Nigga yeah he was lucky. And he's stupid too. And for the record I'm not a Trumpet.
But you know what? I'm still gonna read his biography. Because if he managed to turn a couple thousand into a couple billion. Then maybe there's a couple things that I can learn from him and even if it's just simple advice like work hard.
The fact is that you don't become the richest man without luck. But you sure as hell don't become rich without trying either

also some places have had to hire contractors to do the jobs of fired federal employees

a couple thousand

Elon has a tranny offspring.

I never thought he was a genius. He was Thomas Edison 2.0. Pretending to be a genius when you're just rebranding shit other people made.

world richest man couldn't prevent that super sad

I'm going to seek out business advice from someone who has filed for bankruptcy numerous times

You say that like he is a poor nobody now, but is he really?
Ultimately the reason why we compete with others is to become more powerful than them, and surely he still holds a lot of power.
Also, learning from somebody does not just mean seeking their advice. Like Bismarck said, rather than learn from your own mistakes, learn from the mistakes of others

It's not a zero sum game. There are plenty of other wealthy people to study with no fuckups like his. Lots of them wrote books as well.

Yep, it all loops around.
Philosophy/psychology is applied biology which is applied chemistry which is applied physics which is applied philosophy/psychology. The mind they pokes at nature is first formed by nature.
Metaphysics is just mega physics. Math goes along with everything. Inseparable.

It’s the same with magic and religion. It’s all just a product of the mind’s eye. It is all exposure logic. A black box that is white within—there is no bigger black box than the deep black abyss that is space/life.

There is only one set of Truths out there. Everything else is not that, or a product of ignorance, the imagination, religion, etc.
It’s scary to see ignorance outnumbering Truth. You can interpret stars in any way you wish, like the ancients did, forming faith.
Science—natural philosophy—at least *aims* to be honest, and not dishonest like theistic philosophy: where faith is seen as equal to truth (a paradox).
Only faith in the Truth has truth, as faith does not require truth.
I find phrases like “it’s magic! we cannot explain it!” ironic when science is, in theory, Truth. So how is empirical science not True magic? The Truth to it? I don’t consider magic (“magic”) to be purely a matter of ignorance, since there is still wonder (not the “I wonder…” wonder) in knowing a thing for True. To appreciate. “It’s wonderful!”. A chemist is in his right to see chemistry as magic.
But, I still concede that, if mystery and wonder (“I wonder…”), horror or dissent, etc, lead up to “magic”, then ignorance is the greatest magic of all, and ignorance is surely a form of art.
The universe—existence itself—is both a stage and a magician. What do physicists say when they confront something new?
—"Hmm, that’s weird, I wonder how it did that…” Does this not sound familiar?
Physicists are not only in denial about philosophy, they are in denial about the magic/mystery all around them

I've created and ran

not with that grammar you didn't

at least he gave himself a nickname and a badge before slinking back into the shadows

it hasn't even been a net savings, the Trump administration has spent more so far than previous administrations

cut systems people rely on

Such as?

did you eat your friends?

he's not even real and his mom is a witch
m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUR4up6EBLA

wasn't a couple thousand though. his dad gave him gobs of cash, just like trump's did.

you gotta spend money to make money

Hey, would one of you nerds mind taking a look at my solution to the mind-body problem?
So, the basic idea behind holographic object theory is that objects aren’t really “things” in the traditional sense. They’re not elementary units or primitives. Instead, they’re the result of resolving a bunch of binary oppositions—called subject-dyads—through a kind of interpretive mediation via interactions with other subject-dyads we call objects.
Think of a subject-dyad like spin up / spin down, or location A / not-A. These oppositional pairs don’t become “real” until they’re interpreted by something else—another structure in the system. When that happens, and enough of them get resolved, you get what my model calls a holographic object.
Something engages with something else, and in doing so, the system locks into a configuration that counts as an object. Until then, you’ve got potentialities, not facts.
The core equation just formalizes this process: you sum over dyadic pairs that have undergone recursive closure, weighted by whether they’ve actually resolved. The rest stays suspended in potential.
The reason I'm interested in someone analyzing it from here is that it turns out to be surprisingly good at predicting things. In some of the simulations I've run, it almost matched performance from well-established physical models—CERN-level stuff—without invoking any external wavefunction collapse or observer effect.
Against the ACDM (Lambda Cold Dark Matter Model) it spun up sub-par on global dynamics, near-parity in specific subdomains though (especially in Planck void simulations when interpretive density was modeled). Against the Lindblad Master Equation, my model came within 10% predictive accuracy on ensemble behavior.
I'd appreciate if anyone could try and break the model or run it through a more rigorous battery of tests.

Ok then it was arguably much easier for him. But you can't just assume that everyone wealthy is wealthy just because their parents were, because the wealth still had to come from somewhere.
If you hold on to the idea that good circumstances cannot be created by one's own willpower, but just by other external circumstances, then that leaves you with determinism and no reason to make an effort.
It's good to question the qualities of those that have what you want to have. But if I know one thing it's that it's easy to think but hard to start doing. And you'll never reach your ambitions if you never start doing.

According to Elon, his dad didn't give him money. The only counter claim is from his father, who said he gave $32000 to Elon and his brother to start their first company.

So the brokie/leftist cope is that Elon (allegedly) turned $32000 into $374 billion.

But he's just a lucky idiot and doesn't know anything about business, right? Literally any idiot can get a 1.2 billion% ROI.

no but it's just luck

That he bought Tesla and turned it into a 600 billion$ company
then made the boring company and turned it into a 7 billion dollar company
and then made space x and turned it into a 350 billion dollar company
and then started xAI, now worth 120 billion dollars
and neuralink worth 8.5 billion
It's all just luck tho. Man cannot stop getting lucky.

lol.

inb4 no rebuttal and a "hurr durr musk dickrider fanboy"

I kinda agree with you but it still seems a bit gay when you celebrate the success of another man that much

Not celebrating it at all, I'm just aware of it since I'm an investor and like to know the credentials of the people running businessess I invest in.

he made himself look like a "totes cool memer billionare!!! not like da other billionarezzz!!!"

he then fucked all of it up by acting like a total retard. which is excepted from a billionare. all that money cant buy you a likeable personality

This, 100%

He's smarter than all of us. It's impossible to be the face of the projects he is and to be surrounded by his teams and not learn it.

But he's a retard because he started going on a crusade into politics. Dumbass could have everyone wanting the first Mars colony to be named after him but he decided to taint his name with decisive politics. Should have kept himself as apolitical who's bringing humanity to the stars.

taint his name with decisive politics

decisive

action

Why does politicians being decisive and actionings things scare you?
Sounds pretty conservative, ngl

pretty sure that anon meant divisive.

And government spending has gone up

so why are you still whining? shouldnt trump haters be supporting him, since he's failing at doing the things you dont want him to do, and in fact, making things more the way that you want them to be?

oh right, because youre nothing more than an obsessed retard with no thoughts

in 2025, government spending went up by 7% yoy under trump

fucking idiot trump ruining everything, no idea how to president. what a retard

government spending went up 10% yoy in 2024 and 10% yoy in 2023 under biden

oh. fucking trump

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Even if a pidgeon knocks their king down you still have to pick it up and clean the gunk off, assuming the board is of any worth

ok but what if we dont use a made up nonsensical analogy of birds shitting on a chess board (what??) and instead make an intelligent point? because that was fucking retarded as fuck

He is a genius, though.

Worst DEI Hire

Mostly it's just balls. Jobs was a dumbass but a great salesman and motivator. Gates was a dumbass who did whatever it took to get his software on machines. Musk is a dumbass who wedges himself into a business and takes over from the inside. How many people here are willing to insert themselves as CEO of your little local flower shop and turn around and sell it to FTD? It's balls.

Fuck you're stupid.

The federal budget runs from October to September. We're still on Biden's budget, but I'm glad you agree that it's terrible.

Because "Destroy the country to own those you don't like" is an idiocy I leave to MAGApedes

What makes you think gates is a dumbass? or any of those others, for that matter? LIke actual, tangible proof they're dumbasses.

Comics like this only work if you twist the reality.
Would be more accurate if the watch shop only now sold pride watches, and all advertising was by drag queens, but then the silly commit woulnd't seem so silly.

Remember when the world thought

Wrong.
The world was TOLD he was a genius. Now they're TOLD he's not. Thinking plays no part, truth or otherwise.

Why would you think they're smart? Gates could program, but so could anyone else, he just forced his software on to prebuilt machines. Jobs did nothing but give design input and sell the fuck out of things, Wozniak did all the actual work. Musk hasn't done anything but steal others' work and call it his. When you listen to these people talk, they're obviously dumbasses.

no u

political cartoons

dogma

yep, not a single thought behind those eyes

The worlds full of dumbasses. Even a lot of average intelligence people. Full of people that can program, and thieves, and all kinds of crooks. I don't see them reaching the levels of success that Gates, Jobs or Musk have achieved.

Wozniak did all the work

other people created everything Musk is credited for

So these geniuses got outsmarted by dumbasses?

Sounds like a really strange narrative I'm not prepared to believe.

He is a genius. How many multi billion dollar companies do you have?

I don't see them reaching the levels of success that Gates, Jobs or Musk have achieved

Exactly my point. Their success had nothing to do with smarts, just balls and savage business practices. Do you even know anything about these people?

So these geniuses got outsmarted by dumbasses?

I see you haven't been outside yet. It's difficult for the non-narcissist to understand the narcissist and trust will be taken advantage of.

What has Musk ever created? He had nothing to do with PayPal, Solar City went bankrupt, Solar Rooftops didn't even make it out the gate, Tesla was created by Eberhard and Terpenning, Boring Co was just a purchase which he claimed could tunnel twice as fast for 1/2 the price because the prior owners didn't know there was a speed knob, which he cranked up, burned out the drill head, and now makes tunnels at the same speed and price as everyone else, Neuralink was bought and all the researchers left or were fired, SpaceX is using tech and concepts from 30-40 years ago and is charging more than NASA did... I'm sure I missed a couple.

Where has he created anything? Where has he acted smart? When has he ever kept a promise even?

you're only smart if you create something

There's the fatal flaw in your argument.

That's not what I said, is it?
There's even books written about this. You're the first person I've talked to who thinks these people are smart, besides Muskrats. Are you a Muskrat?

that's not what I said

But it is. You said they're not smart, I asked what evidence you have and all you offered was the questions "what did they create" and "why do you think they're smart".

I never said I thought they were smart. I asked why you think they aren't.

there's even a book written about it

Google "natures harvest" a book written on how to make a bunch of dishes using semen as an ingredient.
Or "becoming breatharian" a book written to teach you how you can stop eating and drinking and live only off of oxygen.
There are books that prove the earth is flat, and books that prove you can cure cancer wtih crystals, and books that prove the royal family are lizards. Just because somebody wrote a book about it doesn't mean they aren't talking out of their ass.

But it is. You said they're not smart

Not it's not you fucking dunce. I said specifically those individuals are dumbasses. I think Bezos is smart. I also think many others are smart, but that doesn't mean they started giant businesses. I know a nuclear physicist who just wants to homebrew all day.

I don't know how I could provide "tangible evidence". There are countless videos, articles, and books explaining Jobs' and Gates' behavior and them speaking. Same with Musk. Ever watch that Mind of Gates film (or whatever it's called)? It was the story of a rich guy going around the world and making a mess and coming up with retarded ideas like shit-powered power plants. Musk is always saying stupid shit like "uh um uhhh It's just like an air hockey table, it's really that simple" without realizing that building the world's largest vacuum chamber and bringing space travel to the surface is near impossible. Turns out that Hyperloop died because they didn't forsee hills.

"natures harvest" a book written on how to make a bunch of dishes using semen

I have that book, and you can make those recipes. There's also a cocktail one. Your point?

"becoming breatharian"

No one has ever achieved this.

There are books that prove the earth is flat

No one has ever achieved this either.

books that prove you can cure cancer wtih crystals

Nor this

books that prove the royal family are lizards

Nor this

Just because somebody wrote a book about it doesn't mean they aren't talking out of their ass

Stupid redneck Trumper MAGAt Nazi afraid of books. The book explains how they were at the right place at the right time. They grew up in the computer revolution. There was little competition aside from IBM. They took advantage of a situation where the environment for their ideas was fertile. It's not because they could do something no one else could. It's not because they were smart or educated, they were actually dropouts. This applies to most, like John Deere or Henry Ford.

I have that book

of course. Ever cook anything from it?

they were actually dropouts

Did they drop out before they achieved success, or did they drop out to focus on a business idea they believed in, which took off and made them far more successful than finishing their studies likely would have?

Ever cook anything from it?

I tried to get the wife to but she wasn't game in the slightest.

Did they drop out before they achieved success

See, you have no idea. Yes, long before. Jobs quit after one semester but still went to calligraphy class at the local college. Gates quit because he was too busy phreaking and building Blue Boxes.

See, you have no idea.

It was a loaded question, I thought the rest of it gave that away but hey-ho.

Being a dropout isn't necessarily a bad thing, if you have a good reason and a plan, which they clearly did. They weighed up their options and made a decision that turned out extremely prosperous. Arguably not the action of a dumbass.

You can say they were in the right place at the right time but I'm sure they weren't the only people in their field at that particular time. They had something the others didn't that put them where they are now. An idea and the drive, discipline and conviction to see it through.

We're going to build a Mars city and build a space dick a day at the gigagay factorio town compound. It's totally happening goys. Just two more decades and lots of tax breaks and bloated government contracts.

And now you're changing the subject.

which they clearly did

Not really. It was very in-the-moment. They grabbed on to whatever they could at the time and ran with it. There was very little planning. You're still clueless as usual, logfag.

I'm sure they weren't the only people in their field at that particular time

Oh sure. It was the birth of Silicon Valley and the Silicon Prairie. My uncle was part of it and was quite successful for a time.

They had something the others didn't

Still in the weeds, logfag. PCs were everywhere. BASIC and DOS already existed. They forced their products into a blossoming market and pushed brutally to keep other out. MS-DOS even used to sabotage other DOSes when you tried to install them. Remember the Internet Explorer antitrust case? That's how the entire company was started and maintained.

I miss Josh.

whos josh

They forced their products

How did a bunch fo dumbasses achieve that?

kept others out

sabotaged the compettition

So they had a winning strategy that got them to the top

quite successful for a time

Which is great, but it would be better if that success had lasted like that of the "dumbasses" we're talking about. It wasn't luck, was it. They figured out how to get ahead and stay ahead in a competitive and uncharted industry.

Now, nobody is saying they aren't ruthless assholes, by all means they seem to be. But I'm still not convinced they're stupid.

josh mama
ha gottem

Booooring. Read up a little and come back when you don't have to have everything explained to you like a toddler. Fuckin logfag, never knowledgeable about anything, always making assumptions and accusations.

he's a nepokid who grew up to be a grifter
youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8&t=1s&pp=ygUOZGVidW5raW5nIGVsb24=
anyone who tells you different is either an idiot or a shill, or possibly both

I accept your unconditional surrender and will allow you to keep your dignity in defeat.

CSS kicks that faggot in the nuts every month or so. The beatdown is astonishing.

Geez... I'm going to preddit where it's less faggoty and retarded. Have fun in your coom cave, logger!

You’re Josh

did you suck my balls