If woman can not be defined as someone who has at least 90% of the biological requirements to become pregnant...

Dunning-Kruger in full effect

Oh? Do tell me more.

Let's not beat around the bush and continue allowing retards to try to move the goal posts, shall we? A woman, biologically, is a person who has a uterus, functioning ovaries and is capable of receiving sperm from a male in order to conceive a child.

1. sex =/= gender

Not all women have functioning reproductive systems. You're also completely erasing hermaphroditic people and intersex people. The world is much larger and more complex than the ridiculous binary you want to prescribe.

is this bonnieburise??? why the fuck is she embarrassed lmao? shes fucked old fat dudes on cam.

Gender is a social construct in order to weasel word the mentally into the mainstream.
Sex is not.
Do tell me more.

I'm speaking in generalities. If you want to make exceptions for every x,y and z edge case that is on you. But functionally, for a species to perpetuate it must have functioning males and females to procreate. Attempting to blur the lines between the definition so you can exist in a bubble is on you.

Biology is an easy concept to understand if you are not retarded.

Gender is a social construct in order to weasel word the mentally into the mainstream.

What?

for a species to perpetuate it must have functioning males and females to procreate

Trans people don't negate the existence of cis people. You're talking as if admitting trans people exist will end humanity. That's just silly.

Muh Dunning-Kruger effect

Wuts weasel words?
LOL.
okay.

so a bio woman born without a womb is not a woman?

No, the comment doesn't make sense. Trans people didn't invent a social construct just to make the idea of trans more palatable. It's a social construct because it's a social construct. It alters and changes with time. Men used to wear high heels and makeup and that was the peak of masculinity. Men wore full-length tunics that were basically dresses. Women have gone to war since forever. No one action or type of dress belongs to one gender. No action is excluded from any gender either.

Goddess

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Muh weasel words and generalizations to attempt to hold up my house of cards.

Actually, your claims are far from the mainstream. There have always been outliers in society, there always will be. Its ok to be on the fringe, but demanding others accept this as mainstream ideas is not the way to go about it.

outliers

A minority is not an outlier. Standing our ground and demanding they be made into a protected class is not the same as forcing things down your throat. Trans humans exist. As a society it is important to protect the minorities within it. Anything less is moral bankruptcy.

Protected class, must be nice. Meanwhile the rest of us can just be the regular folk.

A women is whoever has my penis inside of their body if I am fucking wether consensual or not means you’re a woman.

muh majority victim complex

Shove it all the way up your ass until you puke it out again, and then shove it up your ass even more.

anyone that's born female, including non-human females that are physically female-like and not male-like

Ahh, nice.. there's the not so veiled vitriol i was looking for.
Do you even know anything about me, or are you just going on assumptions?

vitriol i was looking for.

So you admit you were just trolling?

Not trolling.
I have trouble with "protected class" cuz they tend to be interpreted as "more important" than everyone else and that tends to create it's own problems.
People are people, people should respect each other's opinions whether they agree with them or not. This goes all possible ways. Throwing insults cuz you don't agree isn't the solution.

people should respect each other's opinions whether they agree with them or not

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I have trouble with "protected class" cuz they tend to be interpreted as "more important" than everyone else

No, they're just protected, and attacks on them are usually seen as more heinous than attacks on a person of the majority, because they're smaller and need more protection. It's the social equivalent of why you just shouldn't punch babies in the face. They're smaller than you and you could easily crush them, but it's just not morally right.

Throwing insults cuz you don't agree isn't the solution.

I threw an insult because your entire premise is insulting. So fuck you. Eat shit. Die alone.

Insulting how? Protected is the same as Animal Farm's "More equal than others".
But sure, hate someone you dont know online. Seems like a waste of emotional energy to me, and a bit unstable.

Gender isn't real. Prior to the 1960s is exclusively referred to linguistic noun categories.

If you (the person typing the words, not the motivations of the character you're trying to play) truly don't belong to any "protected" class, based on gender, sex, race, physical ability, etc (so you are an able bodied white man), you shouldn't be experiencing what people who do belong to a protected class describe as "oppression"; e.g. BET (black entertainment television, where the shows and movies and actors in those shows and movies are black), its existence doesn't mean the other channels (which for all intents and purposes is White Entertainment Television because you can only ever strongarm 1 to 2 minorities into something via Diversity Quotas before people raze the ground) lose out on required income and view numbers, the great replacement theory is bait to get us not to get along, but if you don't hate the black people, they won't hate you :P

You're talking to two different people, I hope you know. You also completely missed the point of Animal Farm. Trans people have no designs to overthrow humanity. That you believe this is, again, just plain silly.

Cross dressers rent a protected class. Fuck off.

Wow, the stereotypes. Then again, i shouldn't be surprised. You know absolutely nothing about who you are talking to, nor do you actually want to know. You just want bait for your own personal projections and hate.

hate someone you dont know online

You're doing EXACTLY THAT by creating this stupid fucking thread. I don't need to know you to know you're a moron and a hypocrite.

this person paid for Anon Babble gold pass and needs to shamed

You know absolutely nothing about who you are talking to

Who you are isn't germane to the discussion. Only your ideas matter here, and your ideas are shit.

Wow, i had no idea i was talking to different people! You must think i am a total idiot. Wait, not surprised at that either. C'mon, give me a little credit here. I'm not new to Anon Babble. I know you all have discords and groups just waiting to jump on people when you bait.. I'm not THAT slow.

I know you all have discords and groups just waiting to jump on people when you bait

Oh, so you're just a paranoid schizo. Got it.

Nah, i've seen more than my share of screencaps. Don't take me for an idiot.

I'm not new to Anon Babble.

This means you're definitely a newfag.

Screencaps

Rule 33, newfag. Look it up.

I like how you aren't denying it, just trying to cast as much doubt on me as you possibly can. Interesting tactic, but you can't fool everyone.

sealioning

You're doing every play in the oppression handbook. Nobody needs to tolerate you or your shitty opinions. You're not arguing in good faith. You're trolling in an attempt to prove to yourself that we deserve the hate you give us. When, in reality, you walked into a place, insulted a group of people, and when you got attacked for it you cried victim. You deserve mockery, not because you are who you are, but because you believe what you believe. Several anons have tried to teach you, but you're either purposefully being obtuse, or you're just plain dumb.

What does deserving have to do with reality? It's nothing more than one's internal sense of justice and varies from person to person. It is a poor measure of anything.
That being said, I can tell you are truly outraged by the insults you are hurling simply cuz i spoke my mind, in as plain and unobtrusive way as I possibly could.
I don't need this shit anymore. Go project on someone else.

Women is defined as lacking the signaling to sensitize against testosterone intrauterine.
This is the most basic definition.

Aww... did you expect an echo chamber? Did one of your buddies in homeroom tell you about Anon Babble and Anon Babble, so you decided to come check it out for yourself?

It's a literal 2x1 multiplexer, anons.

SRY?

0= develop a female

1= develop a male.

It is this simple, anons.

Men used to wear high heels and makeup and that was the peak of masculinity. Men wore full-length tunics that were basically dresses.

ChAnGeS tO fAsHiOn ReDeFiNe BiOlOgY!!!!!!!

Women have gone to war since forever

Eh, you can find one or two exceptions, but the modern progressive idea that there were always significant numbers of women at the peak of military prowess (just like your favourite Marvel Movies!!!!) is basically bullshit. Unless you're going to redefine 'camp followers'/prostitutes as military personnel it just shows how historically illiterate you are.

reality

one's internal sense of justice

Oof. You trying to "subjective reality" your way out of this?
You came in here with some lame-ass Ben Shapiro talking points, expecting people to take you seriously. That was your first mistake. This is Anon Babble. You should also look at rules 10 & 11.

Let's start with Viking shield maidens. Also a recent excavation of a Japanese burial site shows that nearly half the soldiers at a particular battle were women. This is just off the top of my head. I could probably find you A LOT more if I felt like looking.

Your knowledge of military history begins and ends with Roman legions, and it shows.

Ancient warfields had no morals

Different anon, and you probably won't understand what I'm saying, how it's relevant either.
You need to actually learn about different cultures rather than read mere facts about them.
Come back when for example you understand why mongol women warriors were not common, unlike the Japanese or the Viking.

Reading this argument tells me that you dont understand the meaning and purpose of protected classes. First of all, trans isnt and will never be a "protected class". A protected class for transgender people would be for gender. And that class would protect anyone against discrimination in employment and from the government among other things when the discrimination is about a persons gender. It would protect men and women and those who identify as what ever other gender only against gender based discrimination. This whole thing about making some group special is just stupid.

Let's start with Viking shield maidens

Exactly my point. There's been no evidence that they existed outside of Norse fables, there's no corroborating evidence for their existence - the handful of stories used as 'evidence' for their existence all refer to different events spread across Scandinavia rather than any single event (if you know anything about historical research you know that that lack of corroboration is enough to completely discount the idea as 'unprovable' at best). It also makes absolutely no sense at all with what we know warfare was like at the time - as in that area and period it all revolved around brute strength and aggression, which women are at an inherent and impossible to resolve disadvantage in. If, and it's a giant if, Norse women fought on the battlefield (again, no credible historic evidence that they did) it would have been as an isolated and desperate 'oh fuck' moment after most of the men had already been killed, not as some elite 'Shieldmaiden' unit.

If you wanted a story about women in war from medieval Scandinavia than go with something more along the lines of the story of Blanda, who was an actual person who really existed, even if she doesn't fit your desire for modern politics to have been reflected perfectly throughout history.

Japanese burial site shows that nearly half the soldiers at a particular battle were women

Well that sounds completely credible and not at all like you vaguely misremember reading a while ago! Even if it was completely accurate it would tell you about that one, incredibly unusual, event rather than establishing some universal and global trend. Dumbass. Your understanding of history clearly doesn't extend that far beyond skimming over a few facebook memes on the subject.

tl;dr - you clearly know nothing about this, and have a vastly oversized ego. Stop lying to yourself.

Yes, in Japanese and Viking cultures women had more rights and were able to do a lot of the things that were traditionally reserved for men in overtly patriarchal societies.
Mongol women had tons of rights, too, and were definitely warriors. Genghis Khan's first wife was regarded as a warrior.
You're kinda helping me.
Birka grave Bj 581
Battle of Senbon Matsubaru
Tons of accounts by Romans fighting the Germanic people, of women among the ranks of the Germanic troops.

Even if everything you posted was 100% true, which is a big step to claim, it still wouldn't establish a trend. "IT HAPPENED ONCE!!!!!!" doesn't mean anything, history has been running for a long time, almost everything has happened at least once somewhere, that doesn't make it 'normal' or 'frequent'. I can find much more evidence of people being hit by lightning throughout history - does that mean that being hit by lightning is a normal part of everybody's life?

it all revolved around brute strength and aggression

Nope. Sometimes it's just about how many bodies you can field in a battle. Numbers (and training/discipline) matter more than the physical strength of your soldiers. You're also overlooking technology like chariots, ballistic weaponry, and the use of oil and fire. Plenty of places for weaker people on battlefields of the past.
It happened repeatedly, and independently, all over the planet. That's what I'm trying to prove. It wasn't an isolated event. Women have been fighting alongside men in battle since forever. TONS of evidence for it. By all means, corroborate it.

Dude, we all go inside during a thunderstorm because of how frequent lightning strikes are. It's SO frequent that we have plans to avoid it. We even invented technology (lightning rods) in order to make our homes even safer from it. Our weather forecasters keep track of lightning strikes in order to better predict, and better protect everyone. Bad example.

Goalpost status: shifted

Go ahead and either announce that you're trolling, or accuse me of some nebulous form of bigotry. They're basically your only remaining moves at this point. Congrats on shitting up another thread.

Nope. It's all going to show that there's really no action or style of dress that belongs to one gender alone. It's a part of the larger discussion on gender roles and how they're social constructs. Proving that there were girl warriors dating back to early bronze age civilizations proves that war is not just a male-centric activity. Sorry that upsets you, I guess.

North American Native bands are usually run by women too

Congrats on shitting up another thread.

Yeah, you wanted an echo chamber and are really cranky we fucked that up.

a woman is a human being who has not gone through sexual reproductive development, usually a minor
a man is a human being who has, usually an adult
it's pretty simple, stop being so butthurt over this stuff.

14yr old man

kek

Oh, for sure, but it's much harder to prove, as indigenous people of the Americas never really had a written historical record. Or, whatever record they did have got destroyed when Europeans arrived and plundered everything in sight. It's also not a one-size-fits-all thing. For example Mayan women weren't really warriors at all, but the Cheyenne, Apache, and Sioux had many.

Really fucking simple, if it's born with a dick it's male, if it's born with a vagina it's female :]

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I mean, if you're denying the existence of an entire cohort of humans, yeah, that's kinda bigoted. Doesn't really mean you're a bad person, tho. It just means you should learn more about the world you live in, and try to fear the unknown less.

You're confusing biology with "things I'd like to fuck for 100, please"
You even memorized the whole party soldier vocab so you could shit up any casual conversation with it
And actually writing out "little buddy" clearly shows your weaselly intent - "If men can be women I could be smaaart"
I don't give a fuck what people want to live as or who they want to fuck, but patronizing retards like you is something completely different
People can chose do live like they want and that's how it should be. Playing verbal pretend doesn't actually make you anything. Try going around saying "I'm trans-rich let me into your members club or high roller club" and see where that gets you. That's right, out on your ass
Because it's phony rhetorical mumbo-jumbo that only exists as a divide and conquer scheme and no-life narcissist attention-seekers like you will eat it up whole

I meant today. I lived behind the local band office, they have a female chief, so I had a lot of opportunity to talk about it

I must rape her.

You're confusing biology with

Again, sex =/= gender. Why do you ALWAYS bring it back to that? It's the only card y'all have.

Try going around saying

Strawman bullshit. Gender is what you make of it. If people decide to present as a gender that doesn't really match their sex, who fucking cares? You said it yourself. People can choose to live like they want and that's how it should be.
The only division I'm seeing is from a group of people who consistently whine about "traditional gender" and "a woman is only a woman if she can make babies", as if that's all a woman is. YOU don't want US to exist, but we don't give a fuck about you, yet you call US divisive? Really?

Hello, OP. I see you're still confusing different anons for one anon. Never beating those newfag allegations.

Women, or rather feminine people, have many biological requirements, but what's the difference between someone who is in heat and a full blown woman?
In a strict sense, the difference is that only women have an active menstrual cycle, whereas men and people with heat cycles can breed.

only women have an active menstrual cycle

There's somewhat scant evidence that says that MTF people on HRT do experience a form of cramping, temperature dysregulation, and digestive stress that mirrors actual menstruation.
Also, (and the lack of discussion about this is something I think is really telling about the whole anti-trans rhetoric) trans men exist. Y'all NEVER want to discuss trans men. The entire debate is almost always about trans women. Trans men still menstruate.