Recorded my wife talking to therapist

Tell her therapist to tell her to grow a fucking spine.

Yeah did anything else she said point to you being too controlling?

nah, I'm actually pretty cool

How long have u been married? Kids?

about 5 years married, no kids yet

You gotta bang her more or shes going to want chad penis

this might actually be true, our sexual life is very weak currently

Also maybe she wants drama, so u could intentionally create drama . So its like controlled opposition. And u play thr part and act mad or argue. But deep down your laughing. Build up a tension and then bang her

could you elaborate more on this? this might actually make sense because our lives are currently kinda boring, maybe she needs some action, and then a good dicking

NTA but you could also suddenly start dressing up and taking care of your looks and goingto the gym more, pretend like you got some cute office hottie you need to impress. she'll be all over you, nothing turns a woman on more than a little competition and the thought that you're still desirable to other people

Happily married guy here. Nearly 20 years. Got a few questions. Why is the sex life down? Is it you or her? Do you two actually talk about deep shit and life aspirations? What do you do to make her happy? Does she work? Do you share hobbies/ activities? What's your home life like? Do you just go off and do your own thing? When was the last random act of kindness?

I am going to give your wife a tattoo.

Why does she want more tattoos? And why does she not feel happy with you? Especially financially.

Second this. Read the rational male. Went from getting it 3-5 times a month to 5-7 times a week. I can comfortably say that she's gonna give me head before creampie her. It's awesome that she's always filled with my cum

Based.

Losing weight and having her think she has competition was the best thing ever.

I can only imagine. How's her figure? She in shape or lacking in that area?

Why is the sex life down? Is it you or her?

I think it's because we both take some meds, I have anxiety and panic attacks, and she has depression (since I met her tbf), these meds are known for rekting the libido. With that said, we used to bang a lot in the first years, but it cooled down a lot and I think both of us are to blame.

Do you two actually talk about deep shit and life aspirations?

Yeah, sometimes we do. We have very good conversations sometimes and it's fun.

What do you do to make her happy?

I think you got me on this one. I don't know, sometimes I take her to a nice restaurant, and we made a massive international trip which both of us loved recently.

Does she work?

yes, she works on the office and I work from home
Do you share hobbies/ activities?
we both like video games (she does more than me actually), but that's about it for her. I play guitar, workout, play some video games and do some cycling sometimes, but she's not interested at those things. Sometimes we watch some move or anime together, but that's rare because we have different tastes.

What's your home life like?

pretty boring, I stay home all day while she's working. When she gets home, she cooks the dinner, we eat and sleep. Repeat every day until friday which is when we get out to eat at some restaurant. During the weekend we might get out to shopping, restaurants etc. Pretty boring.

When was the last random act of kindness?

I will admit I'm good with these things, could you give me some recommendations on that?

A little lacking, but not terrible. Id much rather have a 2-3 that will fulfill anything i want vs an 6-10 that I have to worry about. She'll dress however and do whatever I ask enthusiastically

So what would you rank her at between a scale of 1-10? Be honest with yourself.

She's talking about leaving him over shitty ink and confesses that the main reason she hasn't is because he supports her financially. Ie she has no other wallets lined up to take her in and is a lazy cunt that doesn't want to work.

It's already over. Cut the bitch loose but secure your assets first so she can't fuck you in court OP.

And yes unironically start fucking her long and hard. Put that mileage in now so she's ran through and worthless to the next loser.

A solid 3 maybe a 4. She has some chub, but not obese. She is going on walks with me to try to lose she weigh

This is after our two kids btw

Two pieces of advice.

1. Women say shit. Dont think too much about it. Women are bad about doom venting.

2. Make more of an effort for small things. A good marriage is 60% 40% with both sides trying to be the 60%.

Does she hate dishes? Do them from time to time. Even if she doesn't say anything. Does she like flowers? Once every couple of months suprise her with them. Small acts of kindness.

In another part the says "I don't have the courage to tell him I'm not that happy because if he chooses to finish the relationship, I don't know what to do financially".

whatever you do, keep in mind that the fact that she feels this way means that if she thinks she can leave you while getting that bag, she will
she will absolutely try to take you to the cleaners

Is she at least pretty in the face? Hell, get her on some Mounjaro. She'll look gorgeous in a few months.

thanks for the doomer advice anon. Everything you said is on the back of my head of course.

I'm thinking on ways of protecting my net worth already, and I will try to record the next sessions as well. The real deal for me is: does she really love me? I really want the therapist to ask her that, if she says no, then it's fucking over.

unexperienced, but you broke trust. you obviously felt the need to break trust through your own paranoid crap and now you are going to push her away. Classic self-fulfilling prophecy.

Women say shit. Dont think too much about it. Women are bad about doom venting.

yeah, I kinda felt that. She's very prideful as well, and not good at revealing her true feelings.

Small acts of kindness.

this is where I lack massively, in this thread I realized I'm not doing this shit at all.

This thread is my therapy I guess.

See what you can do to get off meds. My wife and I smoke. Helps get her relaxed and horny.

Cook for her. Let her relax, play coop games. Make her life easy for a bit.

Can you get her to do WFH? Or even have her as a stay at home?

Mix it up. Check out a card game called served. Its pretty fun and takes out some of the mundane.

Random flowers. Bring lunch to her at work. Show her you love her. You always need that spark. Maybe ask that therapist to talk solo and get some ideas

unexperienced, but you broke trust.

true, I don't feel good honestly. In a previous post, answering to a more doomer advice, I told him I would record her again, but now I'm reconsidering this. Should we really know what other people are thinking? Honestly it's not fair and I should stop this bullshit.

and now you are going to push her away. Classic self-fulfilling prophecy.

nah, I will try to improve myself and see how things go

Best i can phrase is, she's "Okay". I'm more that happy with that. She'd never do anything like that and I don't blame her. The side effects are worry some. If you want to see a pic, I have shit tons. Shes pretty much my fap material

I'm on Mounjaro as a man and I've lost a decent amount of weight. I feel great. Haven't had any of the side effects that I had on Ozempic probably because one is Semaglutide and the other is Tirzepatide.

This is the toxicity I come here for.

And it's entirely up to you if you wanna share your broad with the class. But, do you love her man? My cousin has a wife that's uglier than a deep fried fucking Pontiac Aztec and I feel so bad for him. She's got MS and all kinds of shit wrong with her too.

good to see you take the hoper route instead of the doomer. healthy advice is probably a mix of the stuff here as in try to improve things and do better, but also maybe quietly make inquiries online or whatever about protecting yourself, hope for the best prepare for the worst kind of thing

See what you can do to get off meds.

I'm trying to workout and have a healthy lifestyle so I can get off these meds. It won't be easy, but I will try. For her it's harder (more meds), and she's not working out.

Cook for her. Let her relax, play coop games. Make her life easy for a bit.

I actually cook for her sometimes, but it's rare. However I actually do most house chores since I work from home (like dishes)

Can you get her to do WFH? Or even have her as a stay at home?

I told her she can just stay at home if she wishes, but she doesn't want to because of trauma related to her mother financially depending on some abusive drunkie.

Mix it up. Check out a card game called served. Its pretty fun and takes out some of the mundane.

Thanks! Will look it up.

Random flowers. Bring lunch to her at work. Show her you love her. You always need that spark.

Yep, I will try to do more of these small things.

Maybe ask that therapist to talk solo and get some ideas

Nahhh

I'm not sure I'm happy in this relationship

The biggest, BIGGEST of red flags.
One word OP: Hypergamy. She's a 4 that wants a 10, and nothing is going to change her mentality. File for divorce before she does first, or worse, gets pregnant with another man's baby and expects you to pay for it. Either way, your financial future is in jeopardy as of RIGHT NOW.
Stay strong, brother. Women ain't nothing but bitches and hoes.

Shut the fuck up. "ohh this is the toxicity i come here for". You soft ass cotton candy ass bitch

Yeah exactly. Why the fuck does this broad want tattoos? She's got a man on the side that's gotta be covered in tats. Or she's fucking her tattoo artist.

Shes pierced her tits for me since then. I've been more on the side of, let's burn calories fucking. Shes always game

Looks like a girl I fucked before. How old are you two lovebirds?

ding ding ding.
Tattoos advertise "I'm a whore" so if that's what she wants, she's already one. 100% she just wasn't comfortable telling the therapist shes already fucking someone on the side, but she is. Women dont want therapy unless they want out of their current relationship; they're such herd animals they need someone to tell them its ok though

Exactly right. She wanted someone to justify what she's about to do. And that's to take OP to the fucking cleaners

if she wants a tattoo, leave her immediately. people that have tattoos are human garbage.

Nice dubs. Both of us mid 30s. Highly doubt it, unless you were engaged. I was only her 2nd partner

oh nice

Start being more open and accepting of things she wants to do I guess, whatever you do you're sure as hell fucked if she finds out you had listened to that shit. Or I guess you could tell her if you wanna self destruct that relationship.

You played yourself anon, therapist would have prob given productive advice, you betrayed basic trust and clearly at a bad fucking time. Have fun with that.

Or I guess you could tell her if you wanna self destruct that relationship.

I'm never telling her this shit. Not proud of it.

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owari da...

OP, read

End the relationship somehow.
If shes staying for the finances she has no respect for you at this point, and not being happy over tattoos is also a huge priorities problem.

Personally not letting a girl get tattoos is dumb, but I also would never stay with a girl that really really wants tattoos. tattoos, while not a big deal on their own, always show major instability in personal accountability, espitemology, and priorities in life.

no action of getting a tattoo can really be justified psychologically 99% of the time. its always ego, vanity, not being done for yourself but being done to send a type of message to others. untreated histrionic tendencies, a lack of self reflection and self respect. a herd mentality hidden behind an individualist-looking action.

its probably not the tattoo stuff for her though, shes just bringing it up to justify her feelings and is simply something she remembers disagreeing with you on, and latches onto that idea.

Sometimes you gotta go against the grain. There was a time that I had a keylogger on my wife just to check in. Our early years we're rough.

You better take that shit to the grave anon,

also im not this dude

ditch her.
she is only staying with you for money.
get in shape and get new pussy.
she will ruin you if you do nothing.

I actually let the guilt get to me. We talked. Ended with us sharing pws and pins

ditch her

lose 50% of my net worth

get new pussy

same shit or worse happens

lose 50% of my net worth again

repeat until I'm homeless

You better take that shit to the grave anon,

when we're 90 years old I will tell her that secret, fart and then just die

you leave her voluntarily and try to keep as much as you can or she will fleece you for all you're worth without you seeing it coming.
you are very much pushed into a corner when marrying a modern whore, but that does not mean you cannot try to make the exit easier on yourself.
also yes random pussy is better then consistent money sucking pussy. fucking random women is the way to go currently women are unstable and will not be good "mates", now or any time in the near future.

This is a good example of why I dont feel like dating anymore. I would never ever consider leaving because my partner didnt want me to have tattoos. Even if I felt they were my favorite thing ever. LIke consider you love your motorcycle. It makes you feel alive. You know it's dangerous you know she will always trip over it. And you either listen to it and drive it anyway or you say fuck it and sell it. But I'd never consider breaking up over it. Women are so fucking flighty and to the people who say dont be so controlling. You are mostly right. But I have been through a lot of relationships and although there are good girls with tattoos look at the state of women today. I've personally had ex's who got one tattoo, then another. Then they're covering themselves and skanky dudes with herpes are chatting them up at the supermarket and by that time I see the walls falling in and im already half way out the door.

I want no part of dating anyone in this time period. Women can't handle the attention, the internet, the fuck boys. So they can have all the aids and hpv they want. I'll live my life problem free.

In my opinion a good woman doesnt need to be controlled. But good luck finding one.

They say 2 dates a week is necessary to keep the flame alive. Might be the way to go since women are all being brainwashed. It's not the way it was 20 years back.

ssh bby is ok

Muh toxicity

Kys retard

I believe if she had heard me talking to a therapist about her, it would be way worse than what she said about me tbf.

Absolutely not true. Women cannot take any form of criticism, they will call you a woman hater. You need to leave her before she destroys your life, you're not obligated to take care of her.
Run, do not walk, from crazy hypergamy bitches.

OP here, I need to sleep, but tomorrow I will read all the posts again. Thanks for the hoper and doomer advice.

I'm currently more to the hoper side, I believe if she had heard me talking to a therapist about her, it would be way worse than what she said about me tbf. I realized I really need to improve myself and try to make our life less boring.

Recording her was a shameful action and I won't do it again. If I were Japanese I would need to commit sepuku

With that said, I also consider the doomer side, maybe she really doesn't love me anymore and is just waiting for the right time to act. If that's the case I'm fucked, so I will protect my net worth a little bit more just in case.

Thank you anons! Have a great day

<3 u fren. Best of luck to you.

I dont know how you guys deal. I understand the self fulfilling prophecy shit but I cant turn off my intelligence. If my partner says please leave while she talks about us I know exactly why. Then I'll just be in the dark wondering about it and have no plan of action. It's seriously so much easier if you're retarded.

Everything in this life feels like a war now days. Maybe I just know too much at this point.

sorry, deleted that post to fix a typo. this is the new one: Bye anons!

I suggest you kill that shame and adhere strictly to logic for the moment. Often times women will start talking about any little thing under the sun they dont like if they overall just feel like the grass is greener on the other side of the fence and are willing to ditch you over it. Who knows if shes just venting or what but sounds pretty bad with what she said about finances. That's not love. The love seems to be neutral at the least.

The one thing I would look out for though. Is that a lot of times the reason these little things suddenly become reasons to break up over often times is because some new dude hit it off with her at the office. Or who knows where. If women are feeling down they can simply put up instagram stories only shown to the dudes they want to fuck and their girl friends who wont say a word and you'd never know. You are feeling shame and looking to just be positive. My knowledge and experience says you need to protect your assets and figure out what you dont know.

You are very controlling, emotionally immature, and pointlessly married based on your answers in this thread. Do yourself a favour and get divorced. You need to figure shit out just like she is doing. I mean, you are here accepting very manipulative advice and whining about you feel bad instead of actually addressing these issues with your wife.

The reality is that you didn’t record for her safety, you recorded because you wanted to keep control of the relationship by knowing what she was saying. Moreover, the whole thing about “allowing” her to have “some” tattoos as if you own her body screams of fear and control.

You are either incredibly insecure as a person, hence why you married someone you ranked low in your arbitrary attraction scale, or she was the only woman stupid enough to stay with someone who sees their partner as an object they own.

If you really want to be a man, grow some balls, stop looking for a cheat code to manipulate your wife into being your obedient object, and either get into therapy and get divorce or get into couple’s therapy so you can talk your shit out. But you won’t solve shit by being here bitching about how your controlling attitude isn’t making someone happy

So... what to do anons?

Tell her you've scheduled a call with a lawyer, and then ask her to leave (for privacy).
When she objects or questions you, have the clip about her only staying with you for the brass ring on standby, and play it.
You won't do any of this, of course, because you're a fucking cuck. You're on an anonymous Mongolian tent making website, and yet you're apologizing for having recorded it.
Holy fuck, I'm so glad I never married...

5 years married

no kids

our sexual life is very weak currently

What number does her weight begin with?

repeat until I'm homeless

Or take the first time as a lesson that you don't "nEeD sOmEoNe iN [your] LiFe."

I want no part of dating anyone in this time period. Women can't handle the attention, the internet, the fuck boys. So they can have all the aids and hpv they want. I'll live my life problem free.

You are appreciated and admired, friend.

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