Ethicalize for me

I want to eat meat, but I think it's not ethical. I envy everyone who eats it. Can you please ethicalize eating meat for me?

That bird died for you

if it had the ability to kill and eat you it would, but in a much worse way like how the chinks do to dogs, torture and wasteful. humans use the whole buffalo and capitalism promotes the use of the whole buffalo better than any other system. little to no waste even during husbandry the poop can be used to make gunpowder or face creams or fertilizer it is all used.

it's in an ethical grey area, you're not the one killing the animal. to you and me the meat is a product on the shelf, but it is killed and held in captivity on your behalf. in an ideal moral world, there would be no one willing to farm and kill the animals in the first place.

if it had the ability to kill and eat you it would

But it didn't ffs

animal husbandry takes up a ton of space (30% of land on the planet) and livestock consume a ton of water and plant energy that could be used to sustain humans directly. who cares about what a buffalo or chicken thinks or would do

Humans are top of the food chain, and other animals eat the same things as us. The ones who need meat fight hard for their meal, which means you shouldn't feel bad about it if animals have no problem with it.

you can eat meat only when it does not imply or support killing of any kind, its good to kill meat which desires to become food whole you don't do it manually and you don't eat it.

Water and plants are far from finite.

We are an absolute apex predator.

water and plants are far from finite

*fresh* water consumption relative to replenishment is quite finite and already at or approaching crisis levels in a lot of places

plants are contingent upon arable land and a suitable climate,which are also being destroyed, helped along by the added greenhouse emissions from animal husbandry

animal husbandry emission pale in comparison to failed plugged oil wells, bitches were paid to do a job half assed it and want the world to fix it while living a life of luxury

Those "places" better learn how to make water treatment plants. Or stop popping out kids every nine months during a civil war.

Humans should not eat animals, it's evil.

It's not ethical, but neither is pretty much anything you can buy. It's all produced by what are basically slaves. It all destroys the environment, kills wild animals, leads to extinction etc. It's all bad. So just do whatever. You're just, like, a rat in a cage, man.

You refusing to eat won't bring the animal back to life, not stop the entire meat industry. So shut up and eat your chicken. There's starving niggers in africa who would love to eat that

how is eating anything ethical or not ethical? you survive by eating other living things, that's the deal, you either accept it or you die, there's nothing really to debate here

I eat fish and seafood. They live free, are caught wild, die relatively quickly and painlessly. They are more intelligent than the three minute memory myth about goldfish, but not by much.
The only exception is octopus. I absolutely WILL NOT eat octopus because they actually are very intelligent!
Aside from that, I no longer eat cow, pig, chicken, turkey, goat, lamb, deer, or any other land animal.
And I really don't miss them either. Don't give in. Your ethical instincts are correct.
I do eat eggs and cheese though so the vegan purists can call me whatever they want haha. And I do love me some milk!

Stop being retarded. Done
Do you understand how fucking privileged you have to be to have an argument against eating meat?

Stop being retarded

how the fuck? Any random advice on how to do that?

it's bad for the climate. boom, an argument against anyone eating meat

Life feeds on life, feeds on life, feeds on life, this is necessary.
Would you go out and stop a lion from hunting an antelope cuz its not ethical?

if animals are raised humanely then it is ethical
we have to eat
you eat plants
science has shown plants show suffering

just eat chicken, its the most environmentally friendly meat

I can't.

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If someone says it's okay to kill a animal and turn them into a burger but not okay to do that to a human and the reason they give is that animals can't reason but humans can they'd have to bite the bullet and say it's okay to turn severely permanently mentally handicapped humans who can't reason into burgers. Or go vegan. Or name another trait(s)

a lot of the seafood you eat is probably farmed
wild seafood is not sustainable

Even many of the vegetables and grains you eat benefit from the death of creatures, and were probably grown in blood and bone fertilizer.
Life feeds on life.
Correct.
This. Is. Necessary.

You didn't kill it is already dead. Not eating it it will rot. It's more unethical to not eat the meat.

one of the dumber argument to make
its not like hes eating roadkill like RFK

plants cannot feel pain

modern high-yield monocrop agriculture not only kills billions of animals per year (insects are members of kingdom Animalia), it threatens entire species through habitat loss and the application of pesticides, herbicides, and artificial fertilizers
out-of-season fruits and vegetables are shipped over vast distances, requiring energy-intensive transport and sometimes refrigeration
agricultural workers are often subject to brutal exploitation, not just in developing nations, but even in North America and western Europe, where many are migrant laborers with few legal protections
so, even most vegetarian and vegan diets involve tremendous suffering, environmental degradation, and death

You're welcome to eat meat.

It’s ethical because animals don’t have souls and therefore dont matter

just give in and stop being a pussy

what is the meaning of this gibberish?

This is true.

Source: ROGERS

I said stop being retarded.

ethicalize it for me

Ethics is a weak position in reality. There are people who drive electric cars to be "ethical" even though the power grid is still primarily fossil fuel, the batteries they run off of are a massive toxic dump, and they only represent 5% or less of the total global driving population. Ethics makes you feel good about paying more to disadvantage yourself. Look out for your fellow man if you can afford to, but don't let it prevent you from surviving and fighting for a better future for your line.

That is why I am Christian,

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You can't farm plants without slaughtering 1000s of wild animals. It's objectively more ethical to kill farmed animals and eat them than kill wild animals and leave them as fertilizer for your moral salad.

Neither does my burger

hahahaha

Don't think of it in terms of false dialectics. There's nothing right or wrong with eating meat. How the animals are raised and treated by others matters, but these choices are not directly your own.
Indirectly, you can support free-range cattle which are painlessly slaughtered, but you cannot stop the cycles of Life and Death here on Earth.
So, support the minimization of suffering, and treat yourself well. Strive for balance.
You have been deceived by people seeking to rule you.