In retrospect, just how bad was he? Be fucking honest for once

he never did x

bUt He DiDnT dO y EiThEr!!!

uh, ok

how do yall do this same circlejerk cringeshit all day everyday

I told you, I'm not a bot, E. You've GOT to take those meds.
It's Eustace. Israel pays him to do this to our Christian poop eating board.

Trump determined the exit date, son.

Yeah, Trump negotiated a structured and orderly withdrawal. Biden ripped it to shreds, did it as fast and half-assed as he could and 13 servicemen died. He also abandoned the service dogs and $85 billion worth of equipment for the Taliban to just take.

Trump's presidency shouldn't have been interrupted. He had a plan and would have done the withdrawal correctly.

*plop*

Actually not that bad, coming from a right leaning independent. He didn't really DO anything himself probably due to being senile but the dems tried their fucking hardest to refute that. I am gunna miss Lina Khan though as she really started picking up steam right at the end.

OK, Jew.

He was a fantastic president. Revived the country and made it once again the economic powerhouse of the world. Which Trump is now squandering while congress stands by, limpdicked

Lol, lmao.

kek

He was a puppet president that nearly started ww3 and had multiple biblical scale disasters happen under his time. Human trafficking with government property and favoring foreigners over his own people being a mere footnote when compared to other things. We still have no word on where those tons of stolen explosive chemicals went to.
He was lying from day one all the way to the final day. The final day being when he vowed to win the election and then announced his resignation several hours later.

We lost a 20 year war in Afghanistan

We never won it. Bin Laden wasn't in Afghanistan after all. He was chillin in Pakistan. Afghanistan was a nothing burger.

scamdemic lockdowns

COVID and the early lockdowns all happened during Trump's first presidency.

record high inflation

Was necessary to stave off a full-blown depression, following the hideous handling of the pandemic.

a completely open border

propaganda pilled af
The border and immigration are ALWAYS scapegoats for conservatives. Fucking Harry Anslinger used it as a premise for banning cannabis nearly a hundred years ago. Find something new that has actual substance.

senile

Your boy is only four years younger, and is still one of the oldest presidents to have served. Go listen to him ramble at any given time.

never really even running anything anyway

Project 2025 and ALL the conservative think tank people are running Trump's presidency, because the last time he was in charge he fucked it so bad we ended up with Biden. He let Elon go as far as he did because he needed Elon's money and social media company to keep his campaign running.

Let's see. Below 3% unemployment, GDP rose a little below 3%, inflation stabilized to 2.9%, Fed looking to lower interest rates about 3 times this year. Yeah, Biden and the Fed should be regarded as fucking heros soft landing America after Covid, No easily conned, gullible, stubborn, ignorant seduced by the extreme right wing propaganda media machine voters picked this antichrist to lead the WH. Americans and the rest of the world are fucking just plain stupid

Those aren't the same thing. You know that, right?

PS: I should not say that was his final day. More like it was the final day anyone cared about him. All the people / bots supporting him with immense fervor went silent and soon switched to supporting Harris with equal zeal. Meanwhile Biden dropped off the face of the Earth as if he died.

They tried to put Harris in to appease the progressives by playing IDpol and it backfired, because she's an undercover cop. Progressive voters realized what the DNC was up to and stepped out of the way to let Trump take it. The money behind the DNC wanted Harris, because she would have been more business as usual. SO they backed her with their full force. The hype for her was really only hatred for Trump and people trying their best to mask while swallowing a giant shit pill.

He honestly wasn't that bad. Conservatives swear up and down that he killed the economy and those 4 years were the WORST EVER but I don't see it.
And honestly, the economy is now way worse under Trump, but now they've gone quiet.

He was a fantastic president. Revived the country and made it once again the economic powerhouse of the world. Which Trump is now squandering while congress stands by, limpdicked

infrastructure bill, which Trump promised for 4 years but never delivered, would have protected Social Security, now Trump is going to sell it to Wall Street like George Carlin told us he would

COVID and the early lockdowns all happened during Trump's first presidency.

Revisionism.
reason.com/video/2023/05/08/fauci-and-biden-are-rewriting-the-history-of-covid-19-restrictions/

He really wasn't so bad, handled the global infaltion better than Canada and Europe. Trump has shit the bed in that regard.

Now compare to other western nations and note rights/left affiliations

Two questions.
1. When did COVID-19 hit the global stage?
2. Who was president during the year it happened?

Though I couldn't find Courtney or what became of the strange Dutchmen. Or why I once again mention Eric Barnes. Goodnight.

these people dont operate on logic. They are mindless cultists.

Two questions.

1. When did COVID-19 hit the global stage?

2. Who was president during the year it happened?

You know the answer, but that has nothing to do with what I said about the unconstitutional mandates and lockdowns. The government overreach and power grabs. That's a far greater problem than COVID ever was.

NTA
your hypocrisy invalidates all your points because the current government overreach which is documented well by bipartisan judges is okay for you somehow. As I said, mindless cultist that doesnt operate on morals or logic.

You know the answer

I do, yes. I wanted to see if you did. Humor me. Answer my questions, please.

I don't care about your bullshit. I only care about the illegal mandates and lockdowns which were literal fascism.

He was quite good if you look at the pure stats.
Got his shit owned in the media tho. Too bad he wasnt republican so that multi billionaires would like him better. Also too bad conservatives are such sheep that they gobble down the steaming logs made by Fox, Breitbart and friends.

I just want to ask you questions. I'm not going to preach. Humor me. What else have you got going on?

Yeah, Trump negotiated a structured and orderly withdrawal.

He did not. The documents are public. It was a shitshow. If you know any officers, ask them what they think of what happened.

He sabotaged the border and diversity hired too hard. I respect him but he ultimately failed his party and wasn't diligent enough to move the country past the terrible age of politics we're stuck in

Your boy is only four years younger, and is still one of the oldest presidents to have served. Go listen to him ramble at any given time.

Trump is the oldest ever elected President. I hope he doesnt get to be the oldest sitting president.

The average life expectancy of an american man born in 1942 is 72 years, so it won't be so long now.

The problem is that his dad lived to the rotten old age of 93. We might have another 20 years of this if he gets rid of the two term thing somehow.

So where the tarriffs left in place that the biden admin coasted on and you are now losing your shit over....again

Trump is the oldest ever elected President.

This is only because Biden was never actually elected at all.

You're still on this?

Student loan forgiveness was inflationary, and his economy was not entirely a product of covid supply collapse, anyone who says different is coping. Also, the forgiveness did not lead to the growth of american business that was touted by his cabinet. It was a bad play overall.

Appointing an AG that was a complete boy scout, taking only the most advantageous lawsuits against Trump was dumb as hell. The man needed to be held accountable and it was always going to get spun as Biden taking down his political opponent. Seems like a bad move.

Waffling on global allyship (Ukraine, Israel) is truly a weak look. Make a statement, stand by it. Will not understand why he chose to go back on his word, especially given that his SecDef had a reputation for hard-line policy.

Did a good job overall. Weird challenges, half-decent responses. And then he chose to toss the whole democratic party into the ocean by refusing to step down in time to have a primary to force Kamala into candidacy. According to news outlets, that came from the very tip-top as well as his team. What a fucking stupid play. Him and RBG were good at their jobs and then decided they wanted to stick a fork in their groin at the last second for the sake of their egos. Will never understand this.

Any other attacks (Afghanistan was always going to be fucked we knew that since 2010, he was not senile but was losing his ability to speak well, any other bullshit you might see) are baseless, shallow, and usually levied by sycophants.

we knew that since 2010

Bro, Biden blocked Obama from following through with a withdrawal in 2012. His ass always sipported the occupation in practice, he was one of the origional authors behind the patriot act and his first act as president was to rename the terms of "terrorism" to reflect the same wide sweeping defibition within the bygone policy. Only fools let Biden pull ths wool over their eyes about his true interests by constanly maintaining "innocence" with a goldfish brained audience too young to remember him being in full support of post 9/11 aggression.

audience too young to remember

We are experiencing this on a generational scale with tariffs and flirting with fascism. The pendulum swing back in the other direction is going to be swift and violent, and I hate having such knowledge.

Supporting Afghanistan aggression on the back of 9/11 in 2001 is a pretty different beast than orchestrating the pullout in 2025.

We started pulling out in 2012 in phases, attempting to prevent the Taliban from seizing the country. That ended up failing because US occupation had invigorated them and were the preeminent power to fill the vacuum once we were gone. There's a book called US Nation-building in Afghanistan that goes over the challenges that were faced and why politicians had a bad view of things that's wortha read if you ever want to see.

Or continue being a conspiracy addicted terminally online mess. What the fuck did we have to gain from occupying Afghanistan besides trying to build an American-allied governance? Do you really think that Exxon is sitting there setting up long-lasting supply lines?

If you supported Trump, you're not gonna get far in your argument here without getting deeply hypocritical.

I hate having such knowledge

You sound so fucking obnoxious when you say things like this.
Political norms change. You're living through it. The US South was a police state in the 60s. Nixon had massive grants to police departments nationwide to fund anti-satanist programs. Things have always gotten weird now and again. It is scary, though.