Tariffs have to get paid from the company buying the product, not the company selling it

Tariffs have to get paid from the company buying the product, not the company selling it.

Companies will pass on the higher prices onto the customer. And even unaffected companies will use this as an excuse to raise prices like in the supply chain shortage

Mexico and Canada wont pay for shit. Same as Mexico didnt pay for shit for the the sorry excuse of a wall that was built

Have fun paying 20/25/35% more for gas, groceries and all other basic necassities
Dont forget you voted for this

Tariffs have to get paid from the company buying the product

Don't care, still voting for Trump

So explain how you think tariffs work.

So explain how you think it works then?

Not saying tariffs are bad in general. but the last thing they are good for is lowering prices. See pic related. US markets can compete better. The customer still has to chose between the 14$ or 15$ shirt instead of the previous 12$ one. Same general concept applies to everything else

please let us use foreign slave labor to make your stuff!

your shortsightedness fails to notice that when the shirt is made in the US, the workers get paid in USD AND the shirt is better quality, so there's a double improvement over "just use slaves" unless you are CEO of globohomo

4 more glorious years of seething and raging

when the shirt is made in the USA

The naivete of you, with your mother's milk still dripping off of your chin. Look into how feasible it is for companies to move manufacturing back to the US and then get back to me

corporate greed

That's why it's not feasible, but it's fucking possible.

Shush shush shush.

I mean, you're right, but don't preach to them. Don't "warn" them. Just let it happen. Let it ALL happen. When they invariably fuck the whole thing up, which they ALWAYS do after being handed all the keys, we'll do another clean sweep a la 2008. But first you've gotta let them shit the bed, and in an unbelievably messy way. And I personally can't wait to see what a glorious mess they'll make.

It already is moving back. Where are those microchip plants being made again?

Wow hate to break it to you, but...
TRUMP KNOWS WAY BETTER THAN YOU.

Why do companies manufacture these products outside of the country? Because labor is less expensive and it's less expensive for consumers as a result. What more is there to understand?

Wow... another endlessly repeated commie propaganda thread...

This guy is currently begging chatgpt to write something that explains how he's right and tariffs work the opposite of how they actually work.

Fuck the CCP. Fuck the 1% that are rolling in cash because of them, at our expense. And fuck the left for supporting them like idiots. How about we bomb China back to the stone age and enslave their women instead?

For all the brainiacs in this thread. Take some guesses when that CCP mural was made? We are under layers of plots. Working both together and against eachother. To bring about our demise.

No tariff

Buying widgets from the foreign manufacturer has a price of $100 per, and is subsequently resold by the importer on the domestic market for $130 per.

$20 tariff imposed.

Several things can happen.

foreign manufacturer pays 100% of the tariff

Importer demands the foreign manufacturer lower their price to $80, so their cost is still $100, and the product is still resold for $130.

importer pays 100% of the tariff

Foreign manufacturer keeps their prices at $100, the importer's cost is $120, the widget is still resold at $130.

consumer pays 100% of the tariff

Foreign manufacturer keeps price at $100, importer's cost is $120, resale price in increased to $150.

In practice, the cost of the tariff is split across more than one of these.

even split

Foreign manufacturer drops price to $93.333
Importer raises price to $136.666

Also: domestically manufacturered widgets priced from $100-120 this whole time, which importers may have previously ignored when the could get $100 foreign widgets, potentially become a viable option.
Maybe the foreign manufacturer will only go to $95 (importer's cost: $115), but the importer can also get domestic widgets for $115.

Furthermore:
Buying domestic widgets for $115 pays domestic workers, rather than shipping $95 overseas. That means more dollars in the local economy to buy widgets.

He does have a degree in Economics from Wharton, after all.

It's funny as shit how democrats have done complete 180s on so many policy issues since the 1990s.
Part and parcel to abandoning the working class and sidelining the the unions during the Clinton administration, they've become the party of international corporations and Wall St. Tariffs were always pushed for to save US jobs for the working class. Now you don't give a fuck, you just want what's best for international corporations and the billionaire class.

What in the retard are you even trying to say?

Are you illiterate? ESL?
Read through slowly. Your English skills will improve eventually.

Because over centuries the United States created trillions of dollars in domestic wealth, and it takes a few decades for all that to be destroyed by myopic corporate greed.

You never made a point.

Japan and the UK levy large tariffs on American goods sold there. The only way to achieve fair trade with them is to do likewise.

ultimately it is america getting what it deserves

Kek, Compared to the four years of democrat marxism, Trump can only do better. Uneducated, ignorant, programmed libcunt faggots live for hate.

company charges more

company loses customers

company goes out of business

I kek

You're that dumb, eh?
I'll dumb it down for you.
Democrats used to be pro tariff, back before the 1990s. The reason being, that it saved US blue collar jobs. Goods from overseas, manufactured in countries with little to no worker safety or environmental regulations can be produced much more cheaply, and the result is fewer manufacturing jobs in the US.
Tariffs are a way to prevent that from happening.
In the 1990s, the democrat party dumped the unions in favor of Wall St money. Previous to Clinton, democrat politicians needed money from unions to run a campaign, and if they couldn't get union endorsements, they weren't usually able to win a primary. Clinton changed all that by getting big money donations from billionaires and international corporations, making the unions basically irrelevant in democrat politics.
Since that time, democrats have cared less and less about working class needs or desires, and have gone all in for big business and the billionaire class, becoming intertwined with big business and the managerial class, and only ever giving lip service to the working class every 4 years.
Now, here you democrats are, sperging out over measures to protect working class jobs and crying over big business profits.
Clear it up?

You know, I actually come from a factory owning family. My grandparents on one side of my family owned a bandage factory just outside of NYC that employed over 500 people.

In the 80s it became clear the company would not have a future because East Asian manufacturers started putting out a product that was so much cheaper to produce and good enough in quality that there was simply no way to compete, although the writing had been on the wall for some time by that point. The factory was shut down and the brand name, patent rights, and trade secrets were sold for a large sum to a competitor with a bandage factory in Texas that went bankrupt only a few years later.

Would tariffs have saved that factory? Does the average consumer think it is worth saving those 500 jobs in exchange for paying $30 for a box of 200 band-aids instead of $5 for ones manufactured in China?

Yes.
If you want free market conditions, then there needs to be a level playing field.
If there is NOT a level playing field (e.g., because a foreign nation has no worker or environmental protections), regulations, such as tariffs, may be necessary to restore and maintain free market conditions (unless and until the foreign nation brings their worker and environmental protections up to our level).

He does have a degree in Economics from Wharton, after all.

Fuck Wharton. He has a four year degree in PROVEN PERFORMANCE.

What's your point?

You're retarded.

im not poor. none of this ever concerned me and the people upset about it need to calm down and admit you're being shown the door.

this should be done multilaterally through treaty and the WTO, not unilaterally nation by nation because that's not going to result in free trade, but rather trade wars

I'm not the one failing whataboutism

No, you're just a retard.

Remember back in the 1980's and 90's all the wealthy multi-millionaire company owners were the "bad guy" for taking their manufacturing over the So.East Asia for cheap labor and the Republicans were the buddies of the millionaire business owners giving them a free pass to do it? And all the left-wing, union working class Democrat folks were all pissed-off at the Right fir allowing American manufacturing jobs leave the country for sweatshop slave labor camps in dirt poor countries because the Capitalist greedy business owners wanted a thicker profit margin. Because exporting more and importing less makes for an economically strong nation. Econ 101. Now the Lefties are all rootin' for foreign manufacturing. lmao My how times have changed. People have short memories. Either that, or they'll just oppose anything Trump does "just because", whether it's warranted or not.

mUh tArRiFfS iS bAd!

we really don't need mass labor the same way we used to. Society is about to change on a fundamental level, and unfortunately not everybody gets to come along.

>mUh tArRiFfS iS bAd!

Yeah

the only one barking is China, enjoy your tariffs from the bald Eagle.

You know a policy can be bad and it doesn't matter which side (both are right wing btw) is the one advocating for it right? I know you're not american but half of America didn't even vote in the election and a lot who did voted down ballot. You have to be legitimately mindbroken slop chugger to be a muh sides retard.

There was a time when America made a lot if its own shit that everyday consumers bought - back in your grandfather's day.

Okay? Do you want to wave a magic wand or something?

half of America didn't even vote in the election

Get a load of this idiot. lol

We were better off then. Much stronger economically. Get it?......."Make America Great Again"........not, "let's keep doing the same wrong fucking thing getting us nowhere but broke".

prices should be set by a central commissar bureau rather than determine by buyers and sellers

Unsurprisingly, this sort of anti-free-market policy still fails at a global level, even if you try to dress it up as "free trade"

make america great by imposing tariffs without the infrastructure to support them

Do you have dementia?

you can't even quantify what you're claiming, you're just talking out your ass like an emotional hysterical shrieking woman

trumpfags when reality sets in

It'll all work out.

shill thread #1353478345983

sage

ignore

lol you're so fucking gullible

so youre ready to hop on a sewing machine right? youre surely not going to repatriate these low wage jobs just to beg it be done by illegals right?

this shit again? okay, look. we don't need a supermassive labor class like we used to in america. between automation and more affordable options being offered from abroad, it just doesn't make sense.

the world is moving on, america included, and we don't need people who can stand at an assembly line and push a red button for eight hours a day the way we used to.

I mean, I don't like that millions of people are going to starve but we were never obligated to provide the labor class with work, and theyve had at least seven generations to elevate their statuses with complete equality and freedom. At a some point personal accountability must be had.

We really don't give a shit about the working class anymore, fuck them, Chinese slaves can make my blender. What I care about is my 401k investments.

Yeah, we get it. The blueeoisie doesn't give a fuck about Americans.

You'll probably care when those starving people come to your neighborhood.

Oh look, this thread again

Illegals serve only to suppress the wages of the working class. Big business wants that, so that they can earn bigger profits, so that's what the democrat party is in favor of.

What an insanely clouded view of reality.

It's probably a chatgpt post. I doubt they're actually smart enough to make a joke about how if your great great great great great grandfather wasn't wealthy you should just starve to death but it is insane enough to be some amalgam of retarded posts made across the internet.

If we're going to be struggling to make ends meet regardless, I'd prefer the path where our dollars stay in the domestic economy, paying each other, reaccumulating the wealth we create, until we "Make America Great Again" and we (or our children) can enjoy the prosperity.
Much preferable to struggling to make ends meet, harder and harder over time, until everything has become so hollow the whole thing collapses.

And your faggot ass will buy ameri c an , amd American workers will pay more.

Americans will pay more

Yeah, because of Trumpflation.

I don't like that millions of people are going to starve but we were never obligated to provide the labor class with work

I'd prefer the path where our dollars stay in the domestic economy,

they don't tho

paying each other,

you're not tho

reaccumulating the wealth we create

you're not tho

If you were doing any of these things already you'd be buying locally, with locally sourced materials and from co-ops and worker owned union run shops and you were already paying the higher prices for it. Tariffs are just going to make everything else cost more too. It's a simple concept you're just seemingly incapable of understanding.

this isn't politics these are reasonable observations and facts. our founding fathers didn't intend to create a nation where people could just scrape by with handouts and hall-passes from the government and the rich. We were all expected to pull ourselves up by our own bootstraps. The ones that didn't got put to work in the lumber yards and textiles and factories, but jobs aren't charities. We were expected to elevate ourselves as invention and science elevates society, but most of us decided to stay in place.

Um tranny, inflation is actually heckin' red-pilled and based! Maybe if you weren't drinking so much fluoride, you'd realize that.

Lefties, hangin' Trump out to dry before he even sets the ball into motion, like they all have this magical crystal ball to see into the future.

The Lefties all scoffed at the idea of "Reaganomics" 44 years ago after Carter let us go down the shitter, and lo-and-behold, the fucking Reaganomics thing actually WORKED.

I'm more upset about a prospective ban on porn. That being said:

Who is this goddess?

yes they will try to pass on the price increase. Smart people will put that product back on the shelf and buy the domestic American one Retarded liberal fucks like you will think Fuck Trump and Fuck America and buy the higher overpriced import shit.

the fucking Reaganomics thing actually WORKED.

It didn't tho

You realize that the government was entirely funded but tariffs until the civil war, right? That's when income tax was first implemented.

you sound mentally ill lol

It did tho

the domestic american one will still cost more. also the "made in the usa" one will very likely not be also made, assembled and sourced from the USA and bought materials from another country

Expound, please

bruh let's pay 20 dollars for eggs to pwn da commiez!

why do you think the police exist, and do you really think its a good idea to make open threats like that on the most fed-infested site on clearnet?

if anything, those sorts of antics will give us even more justification to split you off from us in a more definitive manner.

the primary sources of income also included excise taxes on domestic products (VAT) and proceeds from the sale of public lands

you shitheads claim that 1700s are like the 2000s and it's some truly silly shit you fucking retards

How did he threaten you? lol

u cray cray nig

Option 1:

You personally should research the cradle-to-grave supply chain of everything you use and BUY AMERICAN <insert bacon-cheeseburger-eating bald eagle with machineguns akimbo and glistening 8-pack abs here>.

Option 2:

Tariffs maintain the local free market, and you sh-sh-sh-sh-shop as usual.. and avoid panic buying.

"ewww they succeeded and i didn't and that's so unfair! I'll show them, I'm going to get brutalized by the police"

You make no sense.

not uncommon among the mentally ill? see how this is all starting to come together

No.

Oh fuck you, no one is claiming that. Trump's plan is to do away with income tax and us tariffs. As usual, you democrats lie about it and come of with twisted bullshit as to why you're supporting the big corporations.

You're retarded my man. You think people were buying the cheap shit before because they just didnt know better? You're the most gullible dumbass divorced dad ass bitch I've heard in a long time.

How about we all just let the fucking guy do his job and we STFU?

no medals for second place. idk what else to tell you

We’ll celebrate Trump regardless of what he does just like you did while Biden drove us off a cliff. :)

"how dare you wish for capitalism to succeed"

STOP MAKING FUN OF MY DADDY

/thread

i dont imagine he wants to find our neighborhoods to peacefully discuss his plight or wave around signs. this is the very reason i spend only a few months a year here every year.

it's our turn to be trannies

Gotcha

Evil trips of deception.
All you fucks do is lie about shit. You democrat faggots don't want "capitalism" you want state capitalism and cheap imported labor to mow your grass and suppress the wages of the working class. You're absolute selfish cunts.

People buy the cheap widgets because dad lost his job when the widget factory shut down and that's all they can afford now.
Repeat indefinitely until the "widget" is something necessary to life and the killing starts.

Nigger it's going to make food prices go up.

i want the capitalism that benefits my life the most. you want the capitalism that benefits your life the most. people like me are higher up on the food chain than you are and it's not like that's going to change even under your guy.

Based trips of truth.
All you heroes do is tell the truth. You democrat progressives want "capitalism". You want state capitalism and fair wage labor to mow your grass and you want to increase the minimum wages of the working class while also increasing benefits.
You're absolute selfless patriots.
Thank you!

so youre going to hop on the sewing machine right? you didnt answer.

people need to be sewing or the shit doesnt get made at all. youre not going to sit around complaining about corporate greed when theres shit that needs sewing right? american citizens wont leave the repratriated sewing machines completely unmanned right?

Fuck the poor

We get it, bro.

ignoring the fact the USA is the economy

if Reagan economic policies work why is Trump proposing to undo all of them?

Fucking nailed it.

Pretty pathetic samefag, bro. Satan give you the 666 for a reason. You're on his side.

makes ya think

Which ones is he undoing?

Think what exactly? That we're probably going to have another summer of firey protests once peoples kids start crying because they're hungry?

samefag

wrong, schizo

Try again

we're trying to wean you off living off of us so you can stand on your own and all you can do is tantrum. it's sad. like a kid hitting 18, being told to move out, but he's afraid of the real world and hard work and finding his own answers, but baby birds have to be pushed out of the nest eventually to see if they can fly.

Your attempt at deception fools no one.

Bitch, I have a masters degree and own my own house. Quit being such an arrogant cunt.
There was a time you democrat fucks at least pretended not to be affluent fucks who only vote in your own class interests.

that wasn't me replying to my own post, but it is better to be at the right hand of the devil than to be in his path.

Who would want that?

Pro-Satan democrat

see the OP

then why are you complaining about the cost of food and gas all the time? you obviously know how to budget your expenses. you have a masters degree. if you're starting to feel flames licking at your feet then maybe it's time to climb the ladder a little more.

We going to have another summer of fiery protests when people's kids aren't hungry. Fire protests are what democrats do when they aren't in power.

So, you have no idea and are just talking shit.

ESL retard

The liberal 60's hippies were mostly Democrats. My, how times have changed.

conservative that hates success and money.

The party that wants to mobilize the military against civilians mostly.

Because I have working class roots and I'm not an insufferable cunt like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the poor are poor because they deserve it. They're bad people and fuck them. Right?
Arrogant cunt.

sounds fun to me. all they do is plug up highways, raid wal-marts and get run over by incels.

Republicucks will slurp this up like good goys

Jew hater that doesn't realize the democrat party is completely captured by the Jews, who always vote overwhelmingly democrat.

if you don't have a doctorate you deserve to starve to death

Come on man you're just some child who wants to be edgy on Anon Babble and argue right?

are Reagan policies just a feeling to you? he was a free trade guy, tariffs are anti free trade.

this

Wrong. Prices will adjust to what people are willing to pay. Grocery stores especially will do this, because their margins are razor thin. If even 10% of their customers stop buying from them, they go into the red.

you're whining about the world passing you by when there has been literally nothing stopping you from catching up for the past 250+ fucking years. in fact, people in my circle have been contributed trillions over the years to encourage the working class to join us. at some point you're going to have to look in the mirror and feel the guilt, even if it's not today. even if you were to tear this whole thing down, you'd still know your failure is your own doing

youtube.com/watch?v=ymKM2ov3V_Y&ab_channel=TheExploited-Topic

Donny would absolutely demolish any democrat in an israeli semen chugging contest and it wouldn't even be close.

Yeah, okay trumptard.

larp

that's not what i said. i said if you're seeing yourself in trouble then why aren't you saving yourself from it? we've done everything we can to inspire and motivate you for centuries, we've promised you equality and delivered, and you still blame everybody but yourself.

cope

we've done everything we can to inspire and motivate you

god larpers are so funny

Biden has literally been best friends with Netenyahu since the 1970s, and gave him anything he asked for for his Gaza genocide. Money, weapons, ammo, and let him do whatever he wanted with no pushback other than a bit of a hollow rhetoric for the election campaign.
Trump told him to get that shit over with before he takes office, and they're complying.
You're fucking deluded.

they're useful for fucking up the mudslimes at the moment.

pleads with you to get off your ass

"Nope im going to sit still and keep blaming you. but you better be nice to me anyway"

tfw you dont know what you're talking about but still feel the compulsive need to lie

It's absolutely delusional to think Donald Trump is somehow above Israel and not the GOAT Zionist.

larp

Ignoring the fact that there is a limited labor pool, assuming that something as third-world as constructing widgets in the current global superpower, then just pulling values out of the aether to try to prove comparative advantage has big "I took an econ 101 course, look at me intersect these two lines to make supply side econ make sense" energy.

i miss when the mods shadowbanned libshits degenerates and troons on the regular

Biden LITERALLY calls himself a Zionist. You're retarded.

So does fucking Trump you stupid nigger.

Only in you deluded head, lying faggot.

That is the hug of two men who've fucked each other.

RED ZIONIST BETTER THAN BLUE ZIONIST!

Why are Americans like this?

Donald Trump is obviously #1 zionist
he recognized Jerusalem as capital of Israel
sold his daughter for 30 shekels
the list goes on and on, best friend with Epstein, the mossad agent
just trump things

Someone once told me that America nonlonger needs to be wasting its time and resources anymore by nanufacturing cheap little shit like 15 dollar plastic alarm clocks. That shit can go to China. America needs to manufacture big-ticket items only.

trump literally kissed the western wall, called himself "israel's protector" and said he wants a one state solution in israel and you still have the most delusional fucking golems on earth like yourself saying he's not a zionist

Obama

Biden

He was only posturing, you blind fool.

Clinton

Harris

okay? what do you think this proves? if you're trying to start a whole new argument that other presidents are also zionists nobody is saying they're not. you're just butthurt that trump is one too

That bitch is as phony as they come.

i kinda doubt he's a zionist too, not because i dont see him doing that zionist shit but because im aware that the majority of his political base are zionists (the southern christian ones) that he needs to appease

i dont really buy thats he knows enough scripture to even comprehend what Zionism is, hes just a golem himself

It proves you're a diluded piece of shit trying to blame Trump for shit on Trump because he said some things and the Democrats have actually been fucking doing them.

the pilgrimage to kiss the jew ring is observable. every single US president has gone through this humiliation ritual, with kikes holding threats over their heads to make them do so

now, the jews probably didnt want trump in office because harris would have been EASIER to control, but trump is STILL a sock puppet for zionist kikes regardless. just a slightly more annoying one to wield compared to the empty airhead puppet that was harris

sad cope

He's not a zionist for religious reasons. He's a zionist because he gets political and business power from cooperating.
This makes literally no sense. You can't blame trump for doing something because other people also did it? What kind of retard logic is that? Only the first person to ever do something counts? Bad things are bad no matter who does them retard

Whole lotta "he-said/she-said, but, but, but, what about....." in this fucking thread.

Trump said some things, made a symbolic gesture of moving the embassy (a mater of like 40 miles), and forced them to make peace with their neighbors.
Biden and the democrats basically just flood them with cash and weapons and tell them to have at it, while parking two carrier groups and an amphibious assault force of their coast, and engaging in combat ops in Yemen to protect their shipping.
And you suck the democrat dick and call out Trump as being "for da joooooooos!"

lol

oh shut the fuck up liberal. nothing you say makes any difference to anyone other than your own delusional friends. remember your place or we actually will make project 2025 a reality.

Fake, Democrats do nothing but lie.

most people who are addicted to the taste of trump's cum can't actually defend anything so they just say uhhh well obamno did it too sooo ummmm as if anyone who points out one sack of shit is actually the biggest fan of the previous sack of shit ever

Not a liberal, retard.

made a symbolic gesture of moving the embassy (a mater of like 40 miles

It wasn't symbolic though you fucking retard.

The chances that liberals will bring up gay sex or someone's dick in a discussion is 100%

tfw you dont know what liberalism

It was completely symbolic, you dumb fuck. It made no difference at all in the way things operate.

lol

yeah you are. god you subsist on lying dont you?

TFW you go on the same retarded rant every few days and don't know how the word is used in the US

You're such a dumb motherfucker.

"it was simbolism. he didn't rilly mean it bros"

something tells me you'll be getting a lot of mileage out of this sentence for the next four years.

I know it's used incorrectly because useful idiots like yourself don't think about what words mean so you own the libs by voting for the bigger neoliberal.

So, you're so stupid that you don't understand regional differences in word usage, and insist that the way it's used in your shithole country is the only correct way.
You're like a fucking chick insisting that there is only one correct way to load the fucking dishwasher.

Can you give me your definition of liberal?

Suck my star spangled cock, faggot.
You're such a retard, you have to be Australian.

So you can't?

It's okay because to them, taking a cock up the ass is worth it if da libruls get fucked too

I most certainly can, but I'm not going to obey your commands, you worthless cunt.

It was a question, not a command. Or do question marks mean something different locally to you

Libs unable to have a discussion without bringing up dicks or gay sex

Well, I have a command for you, aussiefag, go fuck yourself, you disingenuous cunt.

Oddly, it's the Democrats who don't want anyone to be happy. They want everyone miserable. Fact.

His point is that you are retarded and or disingenuous or that your only political identity is to oppose the republicans and therefore you are worthless, invalid, and not needed by anyone.

are you fucking retarded
liberals are leftists. biden loving traitors

can't refute my point, so attacks the way it was phrased

That's what I thought.

Not Australian btw just think it's funny how you can't define a term you like using.

he thinks america still makes shit when the capitalist overlords outsourced everything to china years ago
now the US can't even compete with china on new tech. they get amazing EVs and murica gets shitty exploding teslas

What I think is funny is how we've had this discussion before, and you always say the same retarded shit over and over, insisting everyone comply with your definition which is not in common usage in the USA.

Are people really that retarded? They think that infrastructure just appears overnight or that it somehow already exists and we're just choosing to not use it?

we've had this discussion before

Actual schizophrenia. Maybe stick to websites that have usernames.

pretty sure the poors have even more guns than the cops in america
also your entire military is made up of poors

You don't know what liberal means! Republicans are actually liberals too!

rants about the 18th century definition of a liberal for the next hour

Please, you pull this exact same shit out all the time.

What is your definition? Also I already specifically pointed out that Trump is a neoliberal which he is. It'd be pretty hard to find a classical liberal outside of like basically LARPers in Academia and first year students at right wing schools who think wearing a tucked in shirt is punk rock.

Republicans are actually liberals too

how are they not? nigga take a polsci class

This seems logical and sensible, this may also happen but in reality. But the end price will also include corporate greed. Because of so much scaremongering corporations will use it as an excuse to raise prices even if their wholesale price is largely unaffected. I don't support tariffs, even though I agree it will be a 3 way split on who pays. Largely because the narrative is so toxic that prices will spiral anyway, even if China eats the whole thing

Because the common usage of the term is not how it was use 200 years ago. Common usage in the USA is socialist leaning and obsessed with gender and racial identity.
This is how the word is used. Obsessing on what it used to mean, or means in other countries is irrelevant.
Like how "decimated" doesn't mean lost 1/10th or how "literally" can mean metaphorically now.
Words change, and you're a retarded faggot.

companies selling goods in US need to pay $$$

price goes up

consequently US-made goods become more competitive as they can sell at a lower cost than Chinese or whatever goods

US people get jobs and $$$

That's the intention

Common usage in the USA is socialist leaning and obsessed with gender and racial identity.

Not really, just because divorced dads who use facebok reels and twitter as a friend simulator use it wrong doesn't mean it's the common usage.

liberal means relating to the ideology of liberalism

you are thinking of "progressive" or "woke"

only the lowest IQ people in this country who failed their civics class think these terms are synonyms.

Anon doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care about the working class at all, and wants to make sure that corporations make maximum profits.

Keep insisting that people obey your desire to define the word, and people will keep ignoring you and using it like they always do.
You're a fucking idiot.

nigga look in the dictionary lmao

us made goods LOL
they don't exist dumbass
factories don't spring up overnight

except domestic widgets are $349, will laugh at the tariff retards, and round up to an even $600 to cover the additional cost of the materials they are importing and increase the profits like they did last time the stupidest man on earth was president.

OK

tarrifs make us made goods cost more because raw materials are taxes by idiot trump too. they are NOT going to eat that cost.

you means Biden's amazing accomplishment?

you fucking socialist.

Biden had nothing to do with it. Stop being such a lying faggot.

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Tariffs are a flat tax paid on entry. You would also need to source all materials in the US to avoid it. Something could be 100% "made in the usa" and still use imported materials like copper and cotton. This is especially devastating in certain industries like automotive because the way the supply chain is set up it can require crossing the border to and from Mexico or Canada 4, 5, 6+ times. This is why tariffs always get passed on to the consumer.

So it not only makes imports more expensive, it will make domestic goods cost more as well as it's more expensive to acquire necessary materials that aren't able to be sourced domestically or having to spend more on the domestic goods than the imported ones. Either way the cost gets passed onto the consumer.

he really doesn't. he's the stupidest motherfucker in the room. 2nd only to the people that believe what he says.

Biden has not done SHIT in four years. Fact.

He actually was very beneficial for union workers and got the bipartisan infrastructure package through while Trump kept saying he was going to totally do it eventually (he never did.) I wouldn't ever call Biden a good president but he did do a couple good things or as good as is allowed in washington when 90% of the senate are paid off by corporations.

"United" States

"United" my ass.

fpbp /thread

There's a guy on my street with an gadsden flag, thin blue line flag and an israel flag on his porch. Pretty funny. Coincidentally he's gotten arrested twice for drunk and disorderly.

Maybe it's just because I live in California, but literally no one here puts any sort of political shit in their yard. Left or right. No point in it. Single party rule here and no one really even bothers to campaign.

kek, we had a really outspoken conservative at my job back in 2017-2018. He got fired for sexually harassing a female coworker. It's really about 'power' for some.

It being California, I wouldn't be surprised if doing so were illegal and carried a hefty fine.

Uh there's quite a few deep red areas in California though.

Yeah the fantasy of being the one wearing the boot is probably appealing when you're an absolute piece of shit.

I live in one. All the elections are pretty much predetermined. The districts are Gerrymandered to such an extent that nothing is ever up for grabs. This district always has a republican rep, the senators are always democrat, and every state level job is democrat.
Ballot initiatives are pointless. They're either leftists shit that'll be implemented anyways, or something the democrats don't like, that if passed, they'll immediately have a democrat PAC or organization sue, judge will put it on hold until the trial, and the state attorney general won't defend it so that it loses by default.
The democrats pushed through some "reforms" about 20 years ago, one of which making the minority party completely powerless on budget decisions-- what used to require a 2/3rds vote now just requires a simple majority, so Republicans have zero power, except in a few local governments and districts.
So, as I said, no one bothers to campaign here.

Did you have anything to add to the conversation? Anything at all?

Money is the root of all evil. Ergo, giving my money away through increased costs of living through Trump's tariffs makes me godlier than you, sinner.

youtu.be/W5Opvi_UHLY

have fun in the hypothetical future

We'll see ;)

All the liberal tears, crying for big business profits are utterly fantastic.

scaremongering corporations will use it as an excuse to raise prices even if their wholesale price is largely unaffected

Which undermines free market conditions and should get their corporate pp slapped.
There is no legitimate reason to empower a government to enforce legal fictions like corporate persons if those legal fuctions do not serve the public good.

Except that's not what's happening. People are upset that Trump is willingly tanking the economy.

America has been off-shoring 200-300% of the costs of its excessive consumption and is untenable.

Ending this is bad.

For some reason.

Bidens still the president you halfwit faggot, its literally pussies like you crying about tomorrow.

So Americans won't be able to make other counties bear the costs of raw material production and will have to compete on a level playing field?
I thought we liked free markets.

The economy has been tanked for decades.
Eventually someone or something was going to turn off the smoke machines and break the mirrors.

This. The working class has been getting fucked in the ass without lube since the 1970s. And since that time, democrats have completely abandoned them. Now you see them in threads like this, raging that the big corporations are going to take a hit in their profits.

So buy american products instead of cheap chinese shit. All foreign shit will cost more.

Free markets are bad when you're plan is to give sweetheart deals to your buddies and give their competition a 20% price hike while you're made the exception. I'm giving Don the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not as mentally retarded as his voterbase and isn't going to actually kill the entire American economy overnight but instead just continue trying to privatize everything and selling off the government to corpos even more than it already is by doing things like whichever automotive company curries his favor the most is exempt from the canadian and mexican tariffs.

marxism

In what way?

Biden wants to arm civilians

You have no idea -
Many things that you think are origin-optional are not. It's not like for every product there are foreign and domestic options.
Start working on your excuses for wanting to pay higher prices, like "It's not inflation - it's patriotic" or some bullshit like that. You're going to need it to justify voting for higher prices.
Fucking idiot Trumptards. Still being stupid.

democrat marxism

You didn't do the reading.

*disarm

Marxism in the sense of it's outgrowth into the French post-modernist theory that's the basis for all the gender and racial theory nonsense.

Sounds pretty anti-marxist then?

Not how Marxist governments actually govern, though. They always end up disarming the people and instituting tighter and tighter authoritarian policies, because otherwise, everybody says "fuck this" and votes them out or leaves the country.

Post-Modernism is antithetical to Marxism, as the former is idealist while the latter is (historically and dialectically) materialist.

You are uneducated and probably a redneck

Sounds like capitalism

Patently untrue, with Cuba, the DPRK, and (formerly socialist) Albania being examples. In fact, Albania made it a law that each household had to have at least one rifle.

tfw the united states of amerika is gayer than albania

We're "allowed" to have unlimited access (in most states, anyway) to firearms because the government knows we're more keen to use them against ourselves and each other than the government itself. Ironic, but it is what it is.

He lies that he graduated at the top of his class but didn't even make the deans lots of like the top 50 students lol

But you have to admit, the French post-modernist started out as Marxists, and their gender and racial claptrap used the ideas of power between groups that Marx came up with for class struggle.
So they're Marxist heretics, but they still came from Marxism. Just like Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin and Mao.

Nothing bad is Marxist! All the bad stuff is really capitalism in disguise!

Sounds like you're a retard.

Much like how Biden always claimed to graduate in the top of his class, had 3 scholarships, and graduated early with three degrees? When he was at the bottom of his class, got one degree, had 1 partial scholarship, and almost got kicked out of school for plagiarism?

Nobody said that

Taxation is too complicated for trumpychumpies to understand. But they're great at being loud.

This is for example only, the costs and tariff amounts are pure bulltrump.

So where is Beloved GEOTUS getting all his swag manufactured? You know, the silly golden high-tops, the stupid patriotic Bible, the fake Les Paul guitars?

like what, American made bananas? American made cars? American maee what exactly? The USA outsourced almost everything over the last 100 years, its a service industry, very few mass produced items that you use on the daily are produced here. Jesus you fucks are dumb as shit. Even IF you were gonna buy some new American shit that pops up, I guarantee their products are gonna suck hard because they dont have the work
flow down, the skilled labor, any of it.

seething

kek