The man vs bear thing is sexist and you can't convince me otherwise

This is a bit old but it still crosses my mind from time to time

The basic argument is that a woman would rather be mauled to death than stand next to a random man because men have done horrible acts like rape, murder, torture, etc

Thing is, they could have made this sound reasonable. No one is going to argue against you that man has been capable of, and has done horrible things. But when you then use that to generalize and hate all men, that's when we have a problem.

Do these people also use the same logic to be racist, because of the stereotype that apparently all black people are criminals, steal cars and beat women?? No, that would be racist. So what's the difference? That's why I say these people are hypocrites.

I support the foundation of feminism, but it has long been tainted. It's a faction that is guilty of almost all of the same sins that they claim to stand against and hate so much.

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Women are stupid and make stupid memes.

I didn't read all that OP, but I'm familiar with the nonsensical man vs. bear argument. The problem is expecting women to make rational and reasonable decisions that are based in reality or backed up by evidence. They don't. They get their news and information from social media and react by making decisions based on emotion. That is why women should never be in a position of authority where critical decisions need to be made. Decisions made with emotion instead of rationality will almost always be the wrong decisions.

next time you see a woman having a hard time about something and they ask you for help, just ask, 'why don't you have that bear help you?'.

100% based award

I always just ask them if they would rather be in the woods with a black man or bear, then they can't answer the question.

It's only sexist if the bear is female.

I love the man v bear thing because people like you can't grasp the point and usually make it obvious.
You lost the plot 2 sentences in.

Elaborate then.

The basic argument is that a woman would rather be mauled to death than stand next to a random man because men have done horrible acts like rape, murder, torture, etc

This is entirely wrong, the question (as I've heard it) 'would you rather encounter a bear or a man walking home alone at night?' Or in a forest also works

That is the question yes. I didn't list the question, I listed the reason why women have said bear.

Do you disagree with the idea they say bear because they generalize men for horrible crimes like rape, murder, torture, etc?

would you rather encounter

I have seen the man/bear argument posted 5000 times on social media, and never once has it been phrased like that. It has never been about "encountering" and always "who would you rather be alone with."

Is that significantly different?

i get where they're coming from, but OP you're right. It's painting all men as monsters instead of pointing out the obvious: it's CRIMINAL men who commit these acts, not some random dude you might see on the street at 9pm. Idk about you guys but I've never had the urge to randomly attack a chick because i'm not a CRIMINAL

Do you disagree with the idea they say bear because they generalize men for horrible crimes like rape, murder, torture, etc?

Under my hypothetical not yours, nope.
Though generalize ain't the word.
The tldr as to why is 'the worst the bear will do is kill you'

how to fumble the bag with that one chick who woulda been your tradwife

how to preemptivelythanos snap your 3 kids out of existence

ngmi

But the way it will kill you is arguably an extremely painful death, when the reality is most men won't do anything to you. Sure, there's always the possibility they will. That's why it's a generalization, it's greatly exaggerated.
Again, should we start avoiding black people because a lot of them are criminals? Lol.

YOU, sir are UNFATHOMABLY based.
I award you exactly 6,421 internets.

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You're asking a dangerous question and having dangerous thoughts. You don't want the thought police coming after you!

The fact that women believe that in the woods, the chances of a strange man raping her is more probable than the chances of a bear mauling her,
that makes me feel sad. For MEN.

I think you read too much into it. Every animal on the planet would rather be in the woods with a bear instead of a man. Men are scarier because they are cunning. A bear is just another random animal.
I think the fear of the woman just comes from knowing how fucked up men "can" be see true crime etc.
Smart evil is inherently scarier than some animal that just kills u because if it even engages a human in the first place.

Also to most sjw women logic doesn't mean a whole lot they just compartmentalize some mental constructs but that instantly goes out the window in favor of how a man actually makes them feel in interaction.

PER CAPITA

There's less mauling from bears than rape from men because we as a society hardly interact with those huge BEASTS

#FACT

have done horrible acts like rape, murder, torture, etc

bears have too
fren
also propaganda is retarded
and it is sad it has mindwashed so many otherwise good people
rip

I had this exact same thought about 30 seconds before reading your post.
Normies/NPC's/Sheeple are so easy to mindfuck lmao

I diagnose you with woman brain.
It's terminal. Should probably kys.

The man vs bear thing

i've never heard of this so i assume this is culture war rage bait that's been fed to you algorithmically, and its your own fault it successfully got its hooks in you.
also very retarded of you to be mad about generalisation and your response is to generalise back

What are the odds of the man and the bear spit roasting her?

But the way it will kill you is arguably an extremely painful death,

So too for the man,

when the reality is most men won't do anything to you.

Most bears I've encountered haven't done anything to me either

Sure, there's always the possibility they will.

And a possibility they'll rape you and people will blame you for it, not so with the bear. Also zero chance of the bear abducting you to a rape shack

Concession accepted

Yes, its almost entirely an American thing

Most bears I've encountered haven't done anything to me either

How many bears have you encountered?

And a possibility they'll rape you and people will blame you for it, not so with the bear. Also zero chance of the bear abducting you to a rape shack

False rape accusations are also a common problem

buzzword enacted

A few

Irelevant

Yes yes, we know you're butthurt and can't articulate it

Im american and this is new to me, the rabbit hole must go deeper. Seems like a niche comparison for the sake of raging nerds on the internet

No, no, i wasnt the anon you where arguing with, youre just a faggot for using buzzwords and should fuck off back to redit. Thanks.

show tits

Must not get out much, was all over the internet for a spell and encountered the convo irl a few times

implying Anon Babble doesn't also have/use buzzwords

First day?

must not get out much

all over the internet

my circle of weeb niggers talked about it

Uh...ok, point stands, must not have been much of a conversation...like on a scale of 1 to blue/gold dress what are we talking here?

Like a 7?
I think the blue/gold thing stuck around longer in the ~zeitgeist~, to risk using that word incorrectly

Misusing concession, objective, and cognitive dissonance (plus throwing in dunning kruger) are calling cards of the pseudo-iintellectual garbage that filters over from redit. Suck my nuts from behind homo.

Ao social.media.pervasive but not enough to get someone to bring it up with strangers. Like I said, it depends on your group of friends, probably age, hang outs, etc...just because you thought it was popular and relevant doesnt mean it was. That or im old and this is some zoomer shit.

Much butthurt wow

damn, he used all.of my common comebacks

Go back.

Seems like a niche comparison for the sake of raging nerds on the internet

it's just internet retardation. Bullshit to stir up engagement.

Actually I forgot one whole set of them, people who come here claiming argument fallacies detract from an argument because they dont follow the adherance of proper argumentation. Mobody is that invested in the truth on Anon Babble except for egotistical know it alls.

You're a massive faggot. I bet you actually listen to women when they talk about what they want.

I do talk to women, yes.

It's because you're less likely to be mauled by a bear than raped by a man

That or im old and this is some zoomer shit.

Quite possible, I remember it because shitty men were getting triggered by it and I love a good litmus test. Also a wife's coworker (male) was fucking obsessed about it

Drawing comparisons between men and bears is inaccurate. You probably come across a man everyday, you won't encounter a bear unless you're in the woods.

They don't rape. But they will absolutely tear you apart. I say that's far worse than just getting forcefully dicked down. You'll probably still survive, thus possibility for improvement of life.

That might also be my limitation, I tend to fall to the wayside when it comes to gaggles of faggots arguing about their manhood while being hurt over hypotheticals.

Those are some big assumptions that women do not on average agree with.

i know what women want

Alright, thats enough of this thread for me.

That's for the best. Thing is the men who get pissy/defensive about women choosing the bear are why they choose the bear.

You don't, that's my point

A dead person can't improve their life. They can't do anything.

Thing is the men who get pissy/defensive about women choosing the bear are why they choose the bear.

yeah the problem is caring what retarded women think lol. These men don't get that.

So? If you're dead that doesn't matter to the dead person anymore.
Also being dead could* be an improvement.
*in extreme cases

Good point.
Kill yourself.
It'll be an improvement.

Concession accepted

Sorta, the taking it personally reeks of insecurity.

Women would rather choose the bear

That makes me mightier than a bear

Instant ego boost

It's all about perspective.
lol nigger has no response
it's funny, saying "concession accepted" is your own concession and you actually don't see that. You've said it twice when lacking a real response.

What I'm saying is this argument is stupid because of an irrational fear that a man will rape or torture you 100% of the time, that's only the extreme cases you hear about.
When if you encounter a bear, there is a high chance you're getting mauled to death. And that's somehow better than being in general proximity to a random man.

Even if you got raped, as morbid as it sounds, you are still alive and therefore still have a chance at life. You wouldn't have that if you got torn into a million pieces.
Though I know it'd still be horrible.

Delusion you mean.

Make a non-response get a non-response

Concession accepted

What I'm saying is this argument is stupid because of an irrational fear that a man will rape or torture you 100% of the time

Well sure it sounds irrational if you're hyperbolic about it.

When if you encounter a bear, there is a high chance you're getting mauled to death.

Is it? The hypothetical should really stipulate a black bear or something. If we're talking browns I'd agree

And that's somehow better than being in general proximity to a random man.

If we're assuming the worst, which women often have to and you are for the best, yeah

You are for the bear*

Woops

Pretty slim, I'd imagine

I didn't read all that OP,

And that's where everybody stopped reading your comment and placed it on hidden.

everybody stopped reading

not me
so ur wrong

Imagine being this granular and still failing to make a cohesive point.

The basic argument is that a woman would rather be mauled to death than stand next to a random man because men have done horrible acts like rape, murder, torture, etc

No. It's not even really an argument. It's a collection of feelings and emotions bubbling up from the subconsciousness and all the poisoning of the well that involves.

So in the "man" category you have most ghost-men that women don't really notice too much but are 100% unthreatening. Think McD's cashier. But since there's not a lot of emotion attached to the predominate majority, the very few serial killers, dickhole rappers, shitty boyfriends give off a certain malaise about "men." Meanwhile you've got "bears" that most women have never interacted with IRL and the interactions they have had have been "symbols." As in... teddy bears... care bears... gummi bears... and, yeah, sure, this general sense that there's this "wild animal bear" out and about and it could potentially be dangerous but that's a vague, "sketchy," notion since there's no lived experience there.

That is what's being weighed against in the average woman's mind in the "bear vs. man" dilemma.

It's just extra insulting to have to be a man, be cognizant of how men build and maintain all the infrastructure, and women have it so well that they can be almost entirely ignorant of men's role in all that. Meanwhile men exist in quite a bit of ignorance of just how much manpower it takes but are at least exponentially more aware by comparison.

Thing is, they could have made this sound reasonable.

It was never an argument. It just sounds that way because of the structure of English as a language.

The man vs bear thing is sexist

Yeah no shit sherlock.
But there's always double standards for things like sexism and racism.
Its socially acceptable for women to be both of these things.

If you can't follow just say so

discussing this in the big 25

We bringing it back! Gonna bust it out on Easter Sunday

jd vance and his couch

1 in 3 women have been sexually abused in their life
Morgues don't want to hire men because dead fucking bodies are getting screwed
a vast majority of all sex crimes are done by men, a vast majority of all violent crimes are done by men
Look at the way the men here talk about women every day
Even animals don't trust men
That is what the bear question is about. The freakish depravity men are capable of is far more terrifying than any animal

it's not a psyop, bro

I hate women

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You can attempt to justify it all you want, but at the end of the day in my eyes that makes those people just as bad as those they're against.
I stop feeling bad for victims when they generalize or hate an entire group.

That's why I could never bring myself to be a feminist, the obvious sexism is obvious. But if you're a woman it's okay

Congrats, people like you are why women choose the bear.

Because men won't spinelessly roll over for them? How dare they say that dehumanization is bad! Lol

idk whats hard to understand about this?

women rather maybe die to the bear

than maybe get raped by a guy

so women don't wanna get raped, they rather die

i as a male, rather get hanged by a rope, than go to jail where nigggers gonna rape me

If it was a black man they'd get raped and then die, that's the real reason they pick bear

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Not even close lol

All I am saying is, that it is easy to understand

most people rather die than get raped

i also too, rather just die, than get raped

the bear may kill you, once

the man may rape you, for days

Well, that's the problem I have with it. Again, I don't care they say men have done horrible things. That's true.
But by throwing all men into a box, they effectively generalize and dehumanize them. At that point they are no better than the opposition.

If they just called out the bad men and didn't generalize, there'd be no problem. They are hypocrites.

women being cognizant/precautionary of rape culture/rapists makes them as bad as the rapists/rape culture enablers (you btw)

Haha yup, why I love this hypothetical

no one cares

no one talks like this

no one ever says "you know what I love hamburgers. Except all the bad ones"

"i really loves spahgetti, but not the ones with shit on them"

"i really love mushrooms, except the ones that kill me"

"i really love water, except when im drowning in it"

Like yall fucking crying about them not really saying "I rather be stuck in a forest with a bear, except with the men that always rape"

no one talks like that, not you either

"i would love to go on a date with women, except the ones that have dicks"

Nice strawman lol. That's not what I said at all. Nothing wrong with them being precautionally. There's a lot wrong with being a bigot, though

All those examples are like the opposite of what they're saying.

It'd be more like:
"I hate mushrooms because occasionally a few killed people" When probably most aren't poison and can be quite tasty

no, maybe your misunderstanding what i am saying

when women first spoke about this

they chose bear. then people got mad, then they explained why

but i am saying, they said bear, because it is implied why they chose bear. because of the bad guys

no one in that moment goes "oh bear, cuz some guys rape"

no, you just say bear, because it is implied people would understand why

No one every speaks, and gives extra explanations on everything they say. its retarded

That's not what I said at all

Yes it is, you're putting lipstick on the pig that is your opinion, and while its good you understand the need this ain't the place for it

No, it isn't. If you don't have the perception to comprehend things as they are, that's a you problem. Also, you don't say this isn't the place for it.
This is Anon Babble and Anon Babble, anyone can say whatever they want.

If you don't have the perception to comprehend things as they are, that's a you problem

Ah good, we're at the 'take your own advice' stage

No one is going to argue against you that man has been capable of, and has done horrible things. But when you then use that to generalize and hate all men, that's when we have a problem.

this is where you're getting tripped up, you're hearing this and because you're a man, your brain is going "that's what they think of me". but it's not what they think of YOU, it's what women as an aggregate think of men as an aggregate.

are there any cases of a bear raping someone?

None have lived to tell the tale. We in the industry call them "forest brides".

Well this one time at the club big Jim was found balls deep in a passed out twink in the bathroom.

This is the realest post here. It's just how women think, they are ruled by fear, paranoia, cynicism and suspicion. A woman doesn't have the pure heart a man is capable of, they are always assuming the worst and looking to gain.

The lengths y'all will go to avoid the point while simultaneously jerking yourself off is amusing as always

The "point" is that women in general are paranoid misandrists, yes, I know. It's not news that women are overwhelmingly sexist towards men and justify that sexism in various ways using their own misandrist logic.