Give ma a break

You do know the actual cucks are lefties.

Sometimes I just wanna rip off the bandaid and become a retard like you guys and just be the most offensive, sexist, racist pig.

But you already are all of that anon, you're a feminist. Which tends to entail being a misandrist and to some extents a racist.

Anyways, happy Misogyny-Monday,anons.

gif related

by the way my wife was a feminine 'lipstick lesbian' for 11 years before I met her

so of course she's like "omg that girls hot"

however, my previous ex-wife was never a lesbian, but I communicated the reality of life to her, and she also became "wow that chick is hot as fuck" too

so maybe you should explain to your gf
that it's natural for women to find other women attractive

and maybe your gf will even become cool

unless she's a fucking prude...
make her eat pussy

Radical feminist wackos like Dworkin and MacKinnon actually think that finding a woman physically attractive is equivalent to objectifying and dehumanizing her. I’m not even making this up. Ironically, this puts them on the same side as conservative evangelical Christians when it comes to porn and sex work, and they have worked together on these issues in the past.

oddly enough, OP AGREED WITH ME COMPLETELY

unlike you, he's not stupid enough
........ to be distracted
........... by the weird way
.............. that I type

(you wouldn't know meth use if it changed your mother's Wi-Fi password)

I'm not on meth....
I'm simply much much more experienced in this topic than you are

(........ kind of an expert........)

OP is cool...
I wasn't sure what his answer would be
but he answered it correctly
he passed the test.....

the problem is HER
not him being hypocritical
the problem is HER perspective

and he's going to fix that now
He's going to communicate more openly with her

He's going to help her understand and accept the ONE THING 99% of couples never agree to:

"we're still going to see attractive people and notice how attractive they are"

most couples build relationships on fear and depression
(pretending that they don't notice how attractive other people are, and it remains unspoken)

So don't let it remain unspoken anymore
speak about it
And that's exactly what he's going to do now

because UNLIKE YOU: OP IS COOL

You literally passed the test with flying colors.
now it's time to open your communication channels with her

You can craft it into whatever you want it to be. Pygmalion

oops a typo

REPRESSION*

most couples build a relationship on fear and REPRESSION, pretending they are wearing horse blinders, and pretending they don't notice how hot other people can be sometimes...

understand?

and not just boyfriends and girlfriends, because even during the wedding vows, we openly state "till death do us part, in sickness and in health, blah blah blah"

But we leave out the ONE THING That's probably the most important key to having a trusting relationship with each other:

"in sickness and in health, till death do us part, but we both will see other people and think they're hot, but we will trust each other to resist that temptation, although we will definitely be tempted for the rest of our lives"

because anything less is dishonest. It's unrealistic

Go ahead and make her realize it's okay for her to admit she's attracted to talk to girls

That way, when she sees other attractive people, it's more likely going to be a woman than a man lol

(my wife has brought FIVE college girls to bed with us in 11 years)

Just on another complete note. Congrats on staying not married for 5 years. there is a reason that people who marry early are more likely to divorce and yours is one example.

If your gf is serious about this, it is unreasonable for her to think that any man who thinks she is hot will not find others hot. I, myself, would never commit such a thought to text, but fuck it, you did and it was honest.

Now she knows the real you and isn't OK with it. In this case I'd say she is in the wrong, but that doesn't matter. Either you find a way through it or you don't. and if you don't, then keep this in mind for your next partner.

and one last little gem:

my current wife has said "and yeah this guy was really handsome" type shit many times before...

but she's said " and yeah this chick was so fucking hot I was like Damn I want to fuck her" way waaayy more than she's talked about men

hahaha yeah. Wendy isn't afraid to admit if a guys hot, but she's attracted to women. I'm the only dude she's allowed into her life for 22 years now, and I trust she's not suddenly going to change.

but yeah... I think OPs real answer is to persuade his gf to explore her attraction to other women

and that way, the two of them will have EVEN MORE IN COMMON

......... I agree with EVERY fucking word you typed

perfection, actually... you nailed it.
nice work, sir!

but he still has a chance to mold her into her next stage of actualization.

He could still save the day for himself by communicating

I never really bought the idea of sexual objectification, when I find a woman attractive I find the entire woman attractive, mind and body and the hope is that she reciprocates that attraction. I would call that sexual subjectification.
To me sexual objectification sounds like someone finding a pair of real human tits lying on the ground on their own and reacting with the words "nice rack", instead of being horrified at the tits being detached from the rest of the woman.

I mentioned a lot of people (pretty much all of them) build relationships built on unspoken fears and gray areas in the trust department.... And it's all really based on the UNSPOKEN aspects to the way we communicate with our best friends who happen to have vaginas.

Even the most open communicators still avoid certain touchy areas for some reason, because it's inherently built in us to "hope" instead of addressing the thing head first.

because the way to build trust is by OPENLY DISCUSSING IT

once it becomes an open understanding, suddenly now you have real reason to trust each other

It makes you more of an honest team

And honestly? Even the most beautiful men can't hold a candle to an average woman when it comes to aesthetics

It's completely natural for a woman to be attracted to another woman, because men are stupid subprimates, little boys trapped inside a big shell of easily fractured ego...

lead your girlfriend to her eventual place between another woman's legs while you're fucking her in the ass

The more she finds women attractive
The cooler she's going to become
The more relaxed and less distrusting she will be

she didn't react because "she's mad at you"

she reacted because IT MADE HER FEEL INSECURE ABOUT HERSELF
communicate more deeply with her
The more honest you are about it
The more trustworthy you become
and the less insecure she'll feel

hahaha!
your amputated mammory analogy made me smile

And believe it or not, the entire conversation can be handled in maybe two or three sentences, the first sentence being spoken with a friendly smile and a pretend punch to her arm.. buddies

Not making fun of her
But laughing at both of you
laughing at yourselves

because if there's anybody you can be honest with... It's supposed to be her

The entire subject, past present and future can be addressed in just a couple of friendly sentences spoken to your most trusted friend

and leave it at that... let her know there's absolutely NO reason for you her to distrust you, because you are willing to lay it all out on the goddamn table

The more honest you are about your desires
The more they can trust you

I'm glad it did that.
I've been of the opinion that Dworkin and lunatics like her just made up the idea of sexual objectification because she wanted to demonize whatever natural behaviors a man might have, as in all of them, not just the dysfunctional ones.
Feminists like her also have a large chunk of the responsibility for female pedophiles going under the radar and being free to molest to their hearts content for ages, because they deemed pedophilia a male dysfunction instead of a human one.

AN INTERESTING PHENOMENON I JUST NOTICED:

So far, you got nothing but excellent advice in this thread

The other comments from other people EXCELLENT FUCKING ADVICE

seriously.. every single word they typed was absolutely true and correct.. they gave you Blue ribbon gold standard advice today.. You're lucky.

(or, to be more technically accurate, I think you got PERSPECTIVES to consider more than just simple 'advice')

But I'm surprised
It seems like you would have had tons of assholes making stupid comments, trying to be funny

But instead, The people in your thread actually delivered

Good job, everybody!!!

Ironically, this puts them on the same side as conservative evangelical Christians when it comes to porn and sex work, and they have worked together on these issues in the past.

It's almost like left and right is just a distraction and that ideologies that think like that should be grouped together for being authoritarian and disgust driven instead.

..... Like I just said
I find it actually "phenomenal" that your posts and basically everybody's posts in this thread are so intelligent and insightful and funny and cool

It's refreshing

there's so many DIPSHITS that congregate here sometimes... It was refreshing to see people who actually knew what the fuck they were talking about today

(with a topic like jealousy, there's plenty of dorks in here to jump in and start making the thread yet another image board failure)

I consider this thread One of the best so far today

So basically you claim to have had the most perfect and amazing relationship ever, and are confused about how someone reacts when faced with the threat of losing it. And if you honestly think lusting for someone new isn't exactly how relationships fall apart, you're deluded.

they're definitely the ones with the highest rate of looking at cuck, blacked and trans porn. all the data supports the idea that conservatives don't have any sexual hangups around black men and their relationship to the women conservatives view as "theirs".

I actually don’t blame Dworkin for going insane with man-hatred after the horrific abuse she went through. I do blame leftist academics for taking her seriously in spite of her clearly having had the good sense beaten and raped out of her brain.

I’m not even making this up.

no you aren't, you're heavily misunderstanding it and you will never get it.

because
(drum roll, please.........................)

It turns out:
This is one of the most common unspoken problems in any relationship, and the quicker it's addressed, the sooner the couple can begin trusting each other much more than they did while it remained unspoken.

leaving it unspoken simply delays the process of moving through it

"I see women all the time. You see men all the time. are some of them hot? hell yes! Do we think they're hot? of course! hell yes they are hot as fuck... would we fuck them? maybe.. If we were single.. But we're not single... You have nothing to be worried about because I'm never going to betray you... I promise I will never betray you like that. I will notify you beforehand, but that doesn't mean we both can't look at other people and get an eyeful! "

And now you trust each other 10 times more than you did before

It should be one of the first agreements all couples make before proceeding forward

You can think someone’s hot without actively lusting after them, buddy. Saying “I think she’s hot” is not the same as “I personally want to cheat on my wife with her”

I do blame leftist academics for taking her seriously in spite of her clearly having had the good sense beaten and raped out of her brain.

see I always wonder what people mean by this. "ugh, it's so annoying how educated people take seriously people who I think they shouldn't" like do you hear yourself? you don't like that many people with more education than you had an opinion you disagree with? when I feel that way I wonder if maybe I'm wrong

Congrats, you just discovered your gf is a woman. The whole situation has nothing to do with what you said, how it was said or anything else that actually happened. The only point is for her to have a chance to splain things to you and point out all the mistakes you and all other men always do. This is ok because she's a woman btw, you're not allowed to pick on her behaviour, because mansplaining is a bad thing, or generalize things to all women.

of course I don't love him more babe, his cock is just longer and thicker and better that's all

there's so many DIPSHITS that congregate here sometimes...

That is not entirely their fault, I know this sounds tinfoil, but I've been in many many threads where people were having a meaningful exchange of ideas across tribal lines and then a couple of anons will show up trying to get people angry at each other in an attempt to stop them from realizing that they have more in common than what divides them.
I've seen it so consistently that I think there is an organized group willing to espouse extremes from either side of an argument to foment discord, because they don't want people to hash out their differences.
I have no idea who they are or why they do it though, but my bet would be that they for one would welcome our new neofeudalist corporate overlords.

I’m just as capable of getting it as anyone else.

Some feminists such as Naomi Wolf find the concept of physical attractiveness itself to be problematic, with some radical feminists being opposed to any evaluation of another person's sexual attractiveness based on physical characteristics. [Dworkin’s beard] John Stoltenberg goes so far as to condemn as wrongfully objectifying any sexual fantasy that involves visualization of a woman.

Source for the last sentence: feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Stoltenberg-Refusing-to-be-a-Man.pdf

I actually don’t blame Dworkin for going insane with man-hatred after the horrific abuse she went through.

Neither do I, people just shouldn't have built an ideology around her trauma based psychosis.
They should have gotten her help.

That seemed like such a weird insecure statement... suggesting other men should be worried about that type of bullshit seemed weird when it came to you posting the words

That type of shit never crosses my mind... there's no distrust. And your version of distrust sounded really weird... That's the last type of shit I ever think about

(also, that's not the way women would perceive it. You don't understand the way women really think. It's not about penis size)

Yeah my cock is very average and that’s not what my wife’s love for me is based on anyway, but nice try

I once had to explain to my friend, that she was emasculating her bf>

I brought a girl along with me.
And we went on a double date, simple. Walk through a nice trail at night.

At one point my friend's shoe got untied and she was basically telling her bf to tie them. He refused. She got mad like wtf. took off walking forward, my date went to talk to him.

I spoke to her like wtf "he always tie your shoes". She said yeah.

I explained to her, that around other guys, he still wants to be a guy. Cuz yeah, I would have seen him as a faggot if he tied your shoes. He knows that.

You gotta be a good gf, and let him be a man around other men, even if hes not like that with you only. Trust me, he will love you more for letting him be manly.

Couple months go by. she said he loved being manlier around their group of friends. They been together now 5 years, and engaged.

Your gf needs to understand, male bonding is just different. And there is nothing wrong with it.

Oh look, the racist cuckoldry shill has arrived.

exactly......... That shows he doesn't understand the way women actually think

Thats NOT how women think at all

actual feminist (in the way that I believe that society has deeply rooted patriarchal structures and gender still plays a big role in the way you are treated)

You're a creep because you use this to get pussy and then creep on girls in the gym. Your gf is right.

Surprisingly class-chauvinist take from our resident radical feminist. Bourgeois academia is full of shit. Marketing the most provocative ideas to advance one’s career rather than pursuing the Truth. You and I are just as capable of rational thought as anyone with a PhD in whatever postmodernist garbage, and in some cases more so

"ugh, it's so annoying how educated people take seriously people who I think they shouldn't"

Educated people shouldn't have taken her trauma induced misandry at face value and incorporated it into an ideology.
I feel for Dworkin, the man who sexually tortured her was a monster. But being a monster isn't an inherent male thing, it's a dysfunctional human thing.

you don't like that many people with more education than you had an opinion you disagree with?

If said educated person is espousing stuff that seems biased and very unfair to one group while treating another group like inherent victims of it, yeah I dislike that and think they are acting like a bad example of an educated person.

when I feel that way I wonder if maybe I'm wrong

Really? Because you seem more intent on interpreting people in bad faith and making appeals to authority in an attempt to refute them without engaging with their argument.

“Creep on” here meaning “glance at”

......... sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you

because I believe the same thing as him.. I feel the same way

And I've never had to USE IT to 'get pussy'

.... but it definitely played a role in women deciding to fuck me (the right ones)

And those are two different things

in fact, that belief has helped me not have to TRY... they'll make the decision without me 'trying to get pussy:

found the Jew

This is too easy.

THE CORRECT ANSWER WAS:
(giggling in a friendly way that only the closest of friends can share)

"hahaha And I just wanted to let you know I will NEVER EVER betray you... Not like that... I'll never put you in that position... If I want to fuck another person, I respect you enough that you will be the first person notified... and I know You will do the same for me... of course. we are a TEAM... So relax. I love you. of course we can look at other people. Big deal. lol You're the only one"

problem solved

Well yeah, in a feminist frame whatever would be considered natural and innocuous when a woman does it, will be considered transgressive and creepy when a man does it.
You work from the same logic that feminists do, you assign a unilateral good identity to one group and a unilateral evil identity to another group.
The same oppressor/oppressed chip on your shoulder based psychology is behind what you say.

El problemo el solvedo

same logic that feminists do

hint: by sticking your toes 33% into that pool, you already increased the odds of attracting the right woman by 66%

What do you mean when you say the right woman?

My wife goes back and forth. Sometimes she agrees that women are hot and other times she thinks its gross that I objectify women like that.

I had to explani to her that if I didn't find women hot, then I wouldn't be as attracted to her or want to have sex with her as much. She said that I should understand that women are people and are multifaceted . I explained to her that there are plenty of women that I enjoy their personalities and their intellect and their creativity and plenty of women that I enjoy their visual impact.

And that she should get worried if I come home and say, "you know Mary Beth sure is hot, but I really just lover her emotional responses to the world and find her personaity intriguing and she is the smartest person I know because then I would be in love with Mary Beth but that the only person I feel that way about is you, babe."

then I smacked her on the ass and said, plus you have the best turd cutter in the city.

No seriously, I don't know what your definition of the right woman is.

I mean a woman who doesn't have a fragile male ego

and who, like me, is often embarrassed to be the same species as the majority of men we see out there.

How would a woman have a fragile male ego?
Wouldn't she have a fragile female ego?

........ exceptional brilliant brilliant fucking response

....... world class

and further proof that COMMUNICATING doesn't have to take long or be particularly complicated

But it's always the answer

*Sigh* A woman can be male or female. Egos are not binary, they exist on a spectrum between masculinity and femininity.

It was actually kind of tongue-in-cheek... I was saying women who understand the average man is a disgusting vulgar untrustworthy hypocritical sub-primate, a little boy trapped in the body of what they present as an adult male, and who's facade can often be shattered by the tiniest little thing, revealing the fragile male ego that's responsible for most of their disgusting abhorrent behavior

MEN ARE EMBARRASSING

I'm often embarrassed to be the same species as them, when I've seen them try their stupid "pick up lines" and false sexual bravado, all the big talk....

only to watch them flip out and a rage when the woman says "no thank you", angry butt hurt little boys who lash out with "I never liked you anyway!" reactions to simple rejection.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg

I never used the trendy lib term 'toxic masculinity' in my life, nor would I ever use it in the future.. But basically, something in that neighborhood is what I'm talking about.

(That's actually the first time I've ever even typed those words, let alone spoken them)

I'm embarrassed to be the same fucking species as those brain injured primates

...typically in that spectrum but not always nor necessarily between those specific poles*

Da jooz!!!!!!!!!

*Sigh* A woman can be male or female.

Yeah no, men can be anywhere on the spectrum of masculine and feminine and likewise with women, but neither of them turns into the other by leaning more feminine or masculine.
The words man and woman are biological definitions of human adults of either sex and doesn't really take their levels of masculinity or femininity into account.
There is a reason the word trans is appended to these words when individuals have decided to take on the social roles and appearances of their opposite sex.
Aside from that I might be weird in my attractions.
I'm bi and I find both men and women romantically and sexually attractive, but for some reason trans men and women registers as neither goose nor gander to my brain and thus leave me consistently flaccid.
I can befriend and platonically love them just fine, but they don't turn me on.

Just wanna get one thing off my chest, god you’re a fag for being a progressive leftist, like wtf dude. Knock it off

But bro to bro like being legit, yeah that is lame as fuck of her. Being sensitive, and honestly the only way to make things ok is just to suck her dick sort of speak. As in just a ton of nice stuff for her and do whatever she asks without hesitation. Sorry bro, you’ll make it through this

That's because trannies are unnatural and disgusting to look at

brotha u already a retard if you think BLM were actually doing anything good for black people, also I know you got the nail painting thing from tiktok, my gf's redditok friend does it all the time.

ignore the bullshit in the media, from all sides. just focus on yourself and find others who are smart enough to not give a shit

That's not the reason I react to them like I do in my case, I'm not disgusted by them and it is not some uncanny valley reaction to the unnatural for me.
It's more like I'm attracted to two modes of human existence and they have created a third mode of human existence that doesn't register in the framework, that my brain works with when it comes to romantic and sexual attraction.