If your ideology is killed by the truth

Then your ideology deserves to be killed by the truth.

So monarchies from before leftism was invented were left-wing? Because they didn’t exactly have free speech.

Not every place without free speech is leftist but every leftist place try to control speech.
Don't be disingenuous

If that were true maga and religion would have died out a long time ago

Let me guess, what truth means to you is the Jews did 9/11, chem trails, vaccines cause autism, 5G tower mind control and the moon landing was faked.

How dare they censor the truth...

Your meme is out of date. The right is doing all those things now that they can. As usual, they complain about the things they plan to do. Every accusation is an admission.

So monarchies from before leftism was invented were left-wing? Because they didn’t exactly have free speech.

Correct.

If that were true maga and religion would have died out a long time ago

MAGA is a Libertarian movement. In regards to religion, you cannot that any religion is false, let alone religion in general. Furthermore, up until recently (and even still in some places), Religion was propped up by force by the state, so that is consistent with what is said in OP.

Funny. Remind me which side tries to ban books from libraries, ban science education topics, and ban adults from viewing porn under the guise of keeping kids from finding it.

the Jews did 9/11

Your words, not mine. That said, if they didn't then why were they there in advance in order to document it and dance in celebration of it? This required some foreknowledge on their part. Even if they didn't do it, they knew when and where it was going to happen, at the absolute minimum.

If you think these are good and trustworthy people, just look at what they're doing right now in Gaza. If you dare to criticize them they will deport your ass.

MAGA is a Libertarian movement.

Good joke. You don't get to say you're libertarian while taking away our freedoms at the same time. Faggot.

Your meme is out of date.

Not at all. Its just that within the past few years Elon bought Twitter and turned it into a free speech platform, so the Left lost that as their heavily censored hugbox.

The Left still very much have r*ddit and their new Bluesky platform where they mass migrated to from Twitter in order to have a hugbox where all non-aligned views are censored.

you maga retards are going to be the death of us all

but punk is not dead
youtube.com/watch?v=cVlddw6e8vI

i'm behind 7 proxies, you can't touch me if you wanted -

I AM

It's pretty fascinating that people this retarded are still around.

free speech platform

Lmao. He literally bans journalists for articles they write.

That's a child's view on political ideologies.
But of course you're more free when big business rules everything, and the poor don't even get a say.

What freedoms, exactly?

which side tries to ban books

It wasn't long ago the left "cancelled" some Dr. Seuss books because "muh racism".

Ironically, Dr. Seuss was actually a Leftist/Democrat. At least by the standards of his time, but I guess that make him a "far-right neo-nazi skinhead" by today's woketards.

Good joke. You don't get to say you're libertarian while taking away our freedoms at the same time. Faggot.

Government entitlements =/= Freedoms. If you think that reducing the size and scope of government is NOT libertarian, then you don't understand what libertarianism is about.

pointing out racist stereotypes in an old book

banning hundreds of books nationwide and threatening to arrest teachers or librarians who have them

These are clearly the same, I am very smart

Bait or mental retardation, call it

banning hundreds of books nationwide

This is not happening; you're lying. They're being banned from education institutions owned by and subject to the government. What's wrong with banning some books from education institutions where children can access them, if the content of the books is obscene?

Did they actually ban the books from being printed and sold?
Or did they just point out outdated stereotypes while letting the books still exist?

Did they actually ban the books from being printed and sold?

Nobody is doing this.

"this isn't happening"

describes how it is happening and how I should like it's happening

leftism dies without censorship

I wouldn't be surprised. When stupid people have massive big platforms, and stupid people listen to it, simple ideas win out over complex or challenging ideas.

Which statement has more freedom?
The rich and powerful should be free to abuse the poor by virtue of being rich and powerful.
Or.
The poor should be protected from the excesses of the rich because all people should be treat as equals.

You cant take the socialism out of national socialism. Hitler despised capitalism.

Famously anti-capitalist strategy of privatization of state assets

Because he believed it was a ploy created by the Jews.
Which I guess he was correct about.

I love how little thinking you have to do before assertions like this completely unravel.

No right wingers ever tried to do that. lol. lmao even.

Most religions are demonstrably false.

Religion has been propped up by the state in the US since post ww2

Healthcare, speech, marriage, privacy, etc.

Only morons try to view everything with only a right wing/left wing perspective. Human politics are far too complex to categorize on only one axis.

'Canceling' and banning are not synonymous.

I bet you still think the Nordic countries are socialist.

If you think that reducing the size and scope of government is NOT libertarian

Whats that got to do with what th right is doing?

They aren't? Neither was nazi Germany though

National. Socialism.

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

Shake well before opening.

I'm not doing that, i'm just letting the evidence speak for itself

wahh ban lord of the flies because its violent :(

why are kids so damn soft nowadays??

lol

one way

or another

Complex or challenging ideas

You mean retarded faggots huffing their own farts ideas?

i'm terrified of the content like a pathetic baby

therefore it is obscene

ahahaha. sex education demonstrably protects children from being sexually abused. the only reason not to teach them about it is because you want children to be easier to abuse.

Conservatism is like a child's worldview. They literally believe in magic and worship invisible sky wizards on their hands and knees like losers.

Without tradition you dont have a sense of community and without community you cant have a civilization.

Civilization is when screaming about trannies

Get used to it. We're not going to stop untill all children are safe from toxic gender ideology.

So called gender affirming care is already banned across most of Europe and practically every red state. The rest of you idiots are only going to die out. Look how exceedingly low the birth rates are in blue states.

keked

You think I'm one of them lmao.

Birth rates don't matter too much if your population dies from disease, guns, war, natural disasters before they can raise a family. Maybe that's why red states push hard for child marriage

Trannies are as much of a human folly as religion, society would be better off without both of them.
And you build community by respecting your fellow man and woman instead of holding onto bs outdated ideas and calling everyone you dislike a sinner.

The evidence that shows you're wrong?
Aight, interesting choice

respecting your fellow man and woman

That doesnt mean supporting stupid ideas and you know it.

Which is why people are ditching religion in droves

I didn't say anything about tradition you illiterate faggot. I was talking about the invisible sky wizards conservatives believe in.

No one even said you had to stop your tradition. Keep worshiping invisible people if that's what rubs your balls the right way. You don't get to decide that other people ought to believe the same bullshit, though.

oh no no no anon you dont understand

The answer is centrism. All the based homophobia, transphobia, biphobia, and white supremacy you could ask for while still being secular and anti-religion. Freedom of speech, small government, but still strong investment in the public space sector. Public and private healthcare working seperately in the same jurisdiction. People need to be free to hate, in order to keep up standards, but threats are still illegal.

Don't be disingenuous

Hilarious irony.

why were they there in advance in order to document it and dance in celebration of it?

why are you a lying kike who lies about kikes?

true words, Ivan

they complain about the things they plan to do.

plan what? the left actively censors now, and has for many years
just look at twitter before Elon bought it, or bluesky and reddit now, all heavily moderated to keep it left-leaning, only allowing "approved" opinions

Now Elon and Trump are censoring people, just as badly as they claimed was happening before, obviously. Because they never cared about free speech, they were accusing people of censoring as preparation for doing the same themselves.

trump, maga, and the gop are leftists

algorithms are free market par excellence

free markets are leftist

KEK

Now Elon and Trump are censoring people

who are they censoring?

Elon will ban you from his hugbox if if your post upsets him personally, and shadow bans you if you post links to competitor websites. Trump will literally disappear you into a jail half way across the country if you criticize Israel. Come on now, anon.

free markets aren't political, they only strive for whatever works the best
and you're pretending like social media isn't a pure free market when it is almost always the opposite, they're typically heavily moderated, usually by those who are left-leaning, meaning you only end up seeing left-leaning content because the rest is removed
this is why the left cries about twitter/X being "right-wing", because they're so used to their leftwing echo chamber hugboxes that remove all the stuff they don't like, making think it's normal and what everyone in the world thinks, which is not at all the case
so as soon as you remove all that moderation it feels right-wing, when it's just that you now see everyone else's opinions too now

Elon will ban you from his hugbox if if your post upsets him personally

thousands of people talk shit about Elon every single day on twitter and they don't get banned, why do you retards constantly have to lie about shit?

forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-musk-silencing-his-critics-as-journalists-are-suspended-by-x/

Let me guess, it's fake news.

algorithms are when moderation

How would you have felt if you didn't have breakfast today?

>algorithms are when moderation

no, algorithms and moderation are not the same thing
the algos control what you see on your feed, all social media has that
moderation is when words are filtered by bots, and humans remove content they don't agree with, and Elon removed most of the moderation on twitter when he bought it, which is why now lefties claim it's right-wing, when it really isn't, but it feels that way when you're used to every other platform removes most of the content that isn't strictly left-wing approved

musk is accused of

right, the same way Trump was accused of "arresting judges just because they disagree with him!" when the FBI grabbed the lady who helped the wife beating drug dealer escape from ICE. The same way anyone the left doesn't like is accused of things and left leaning media reports on the accusations. You are l

I'm not paying for forbes so I can read your propaganda. Anyone can accuse anyone of anything. Let me know when it stops being an accusation, kthx.

It's fake news!

I knew it, lmao

Your very thread is trying to silence us you fat fuck

share media smear article

I bet you'll call it a smear article!

wow, you have a very big brain and have outplayed me. I guess that proves what you're saying.

They're exactly as good as the evidence you have for leftist banning genius. Accusations from people who were banned.

musk reads every single tweet to see if it offends him

And now the truth is a smear. If mental gymnastics was an event you'd win the special olympics.

I don't know how software works

He's got nothing better to do.

he owns the fucking platform and has his own AI, if he wanted to he could just direct his employees to autoban people or remove any content critical of him, which is not the case
either provide examples (which you know don't exist) or fuck off

anon, you don't understand. He's been accused. That means he's guilty and you must prove him innocent.
see

i don't understand sarcasm

I was only pretending to be retarded

a bunch of journalists say they were banned by Elon

They must all be lying

random schizo on Anon Babble says he was banned before Elon

Of course, of course

well no, because we have mark zuckerberg and jack dorsey both acknowledging that they banned right-leaning people and ideas at the behest of the government. We also have the context of the before, when there was the censorship, and now the after where there isn't. You see the difference? I know you do, you're just a disingenuous shill.

i was unironically retarded

They both were saying they banned disinformation. Not their fault the right is the biggest purveyor of disinformation there is.
And of course you see the difference, the people you dislike are the ones being censored this time around, that's the whole point.

Not their fault the right is the biggest purveyor of disinformation there is.

tell me more about how Ivermectin isn't used for humans and how it's dangerous to take

disinformation

right, disinformation. Racist, russian propaganda... like the wuhan lab leak theory, hunter's laptop, and vaccine efficacy. They have admitted to banning information that was true but inconvenient because that's what happens when the government gets to decide what counts as mis or disinformation. I know you know this.

That is an example of disinformation yeah. Your ban would have been worth it, lmao. Not even going to bother educating you.

Responding to accusations of disinformation with more disinformation? You can't help yourself, can you?

That is an example of disinformation yeah

it was, by the left, trying to paint it in a bad light
they went so far as to photoshop Joe Rogan to look green and sickly after he talked about taking it to push the narrative that it was bad

Wuhan lab leak theory has not been established as true, we don't know either way, hunter laptop contains no reference to Biden which is the actual disinformation that the right was doing, and vaccines are safe and effective. That's 0/3.

gets to decide what counts as mis or disinformation

It was the previous owners of twitter that got to decide who to ban, now it's Elon. There's no difference.

no, algorithms and moderation are not the same thing

the algos control what you see on your feed, all social media has that

Who implements the algorithms? Who pays those people? Why? How (and use both of your braincells for this) is that NOT the decision of the C-suite?

what point are you even trying to make?
yes, algos can also perform moderation functions promoting and not promoting certain content, which is different from removing it entirely
even if some content isn't pushed, you can still go find it, because it's still there, it might not just be at the top of your feed
removed content cannot be found, because it's removed, which is actual moderation

You're the retard who went off about moderation when the discussion was about algorithms. Did you really derail your own train of thought?
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That's 0/3.

false

It was the previous owners of twitter

false, it was the government

the thread is about censorship, not algorithms
algorithms don't censor anything, moderation does
moderation is the removal of content, algorithms that drive what gets promoted don't remove anything, they mostly just shape people's feeds
jesus fuck you're retarded
twitter largely doesn't moderate anything, which is why the left cries about it
reddit and bluesky heavily moderate anything that isn't left-wing approved
none of this shit has anything to do with algos

The government could ask them to take something down if they thought it was misinformation. They'd review it and ban it if they agree. So you're wrong, as usual.

There's no difference.

but there is, twitter kicked off all kinds of right-wing figures before Elon bought it
and he unbanned most of them, the difference is Elon's twitter doesn't ban people they don't like, they really only ban people who actually break the law in some way, not for having opinions that others don't like

the difference is Elon's twitter doesn't ban people they don't like

Lol, there's people getting banned for making fun of Elon when replying to the latest stupidity he's tweeting about. You must be living under a rock.

The government could ask them to take something down if they thought it was misinformation

right, and they used that power to censor information that was true but inconvenient, as confirmed by dorsey and the zuck. That's the entire point, i'm glad we've finally agreed.

that was true but inconvenient

No, they censored misinformation.

sir, you are explicitly disagreeing with the people who did the censoring who have revealed that "misinformation" as dictated by the gov't was occasionally information that was true. It is gg. I bid you good day.

The government could ask them to take something down if they thought it was misinformation

do you know what the first amendment is? I'm assuming you aren't from the US

You have not provided a single example of misinformation that ended up being true.

The Supreme Court has ruled the government can ask a private actor to carry out censorship as long as they are not being pressured into it. They were not being pressured into it at any point, they could have refused to do it and faced no retaliation. We know this because they did refuse to do it when they didn't think the case for misinformation was convincing enough, and nothing happened.

right, they can ask, but no one has to oblige

Seems we're in agreement then.

1A prohibits the government from punishing people for what they say. Asking social media to remove misinformation isn't a punishment. You'd know this if you were an American.

Absolute nigger IQ working here. Algorithms shape what you see. Algorithms can bury stuff so deep you'll never find it. Algorithms cooked your brain with slop.
You don't need the human moderation you keep harping on about when you have algorithms. I ask you again who makes these algorithms for who with which end goal? How is it *not* the C-suite who controls what (you) are seeing? How is not them who hide content from you?
Algorithms ARE the free market at work.

Algorithms can bury stuff so deep you'll never find it

you can if search for it, or someone links it to you
it's like you don't how any of this shit works
reddit doesn't "bury" content they disagree with, they straight up remove it, ban the users, and sometimes even entire subreddits. that's not "algorithms", that's outright heavy-handed moderation and censorship, which they're free to do as its their platform, but you can't pretend that they don't do it

"Canceling" someone is just saying they're a loser. People are still free to buy their books, find them at the library, etc. That's way different from banning a book.

Elon started banning people on Twitter almost immediately after buying it. He banned that guy who posted his flights (which is public information), he banned a bunch of journalists who were writing articles about him, banned people for saying CISgender, etc. The only people who have free speech there are Nazis who exclusively post videos of black people attacking white people and merchant memes. Right Wingers always lie. It's all they know how to do.

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The rich and powerful should be free to abuse the poor by virtue of being rich and powerful.

The rich and powerful can only abuse the poor through the use of force, and the government has a monopoly on the use of force. Don't want the rich and powerful to be able to wield the government as a blugeon against the poor? Then the answer is quite simple: Bind the government from mischief by the chains of the constitution.

privatization of state assets

Never happened. But do you know what DID happen? This state owned industrial conglomerate became the largest in Europe, if not the entire world.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichswerke_Hermann_Göring

Let's hear no more about how "Da National Socialists weren't real Socialists!"

This state monopolization of industry is damning proof of their socialism.

Neither was nazi Germany though

Putting everything under state control isn't socialist?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichswerke_Hermann_Göring

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

"Republican"

(Democrat, actually)

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

This isn't a misnomer. Karl Marx himself wrote about how communism was the most Democratic of all. He wasn't wrong. Democracy is a lynch mob mentality. It is NOT a good thing.

North Korea is a communist shithole, but its also Democratic. They're not lying when they say so. Democracy is just shit.

Conservatism is like a child's worldview. They literally believe in magic and worship invisible sky wizards on their hands and knees like losers.

Unlike those mature and adult Liberals who believe in the magic of cutting off your dick and dying your hair blue will make you into a woman, and getting on their hands and knees to worship criminals like George Floyd.

Everyone knows Biden is a senile retard and not really running anything. He didn't recognize George Clooney, and he mistook Zelensky for Putin, and various other gaffes. Do you expect him to know what those numbers mean? The man who said "Go to Joe 30330" in 2020?

Nevertheless, we DID see the Oppressive Left-Wing response for those Jan 6 protesters that were locked up and whom Biden didn't pardon.

Also want to add that, except for Jack Poso none of those responses you showed on the right panel were in the left panel saying "8646". Okay, that Jack Poso guy is a hypocrite. You get him. This one person.

But Don Trump Jr, DC Draino, Kristi Noem, et al did not say "8646". So they're not hypocrites for calling out "8647". Maybe they'd have called out 8646 too if they were aware of it and knew the connotations.

why are you a lying kike who lies about kikes?

Where's the lie? Picrel.