The Loli debacle

I wanna make this post and argument in good faith but I don't think loli equates to pedophilia (unless its stated directly otherwise in the source).

My main argument for this being that for the same reason that murder in video games isn't viewed as the main perpetrator for murder in real life, lolicon isn't really a perpetrator for pedophilia.
There is a deeper underlying issue that people should address within their mental health and what is wrong with them to result in real life tragedies being able to prevent them.
I also am a fond keeper of consistency so having observed people defend murder in video games and media while being against loli in fictional media doesn't sit right with me. In fact, I have seen people actively endorse real life murder and get away with it scott-free which is fucked up (these same people think that people should get in jail for beating it to shortstacks).

Like, I will come off as honest and say that loli's make me hard as fuck and I jerk off to them very frequently. But I have never seen a child in person and thought about deflowering her, it disgusts me. I am not making this to be pretentious either, It's legitimately heartbreaking and stressful to see a child in agony and pain.
I also had cousins who I looked after when their parents were off to work who were a solid 10-15 years younger than me but I never even had the notion to do anything vile to them. I literally couldn't force myself to make myself to, I love them in a non-romantic way and treat them like little sisters whom I would give them everything in the world to keep them happy.
Loli's on the other hand are just fictional figures who have a body-plan that women can have and don't act the part of a child, they're fictional and not realistic. A hentai doujinshi where the loli asks for sex doesn't seem very realistic to me.

Your logic is flawless. However, don't expect that anyone who is not into this shit will even entertain the idea of defending it. This is the dumbest hill anyone could choose to die on. Probably only an autistic person such as Richard Stallman would publicly defend this.

It is simply a taboo. A matter that is not even going to be discussed by most. Some sizeable percent of the population find it revolting, and the rest will not even discuss it beause it is social suicide.

Now, why is that violence is accepted and not this? We make our decisions based on feelings. Anyone can understand the idea of killing a bad person, killing someone you hate, who deserves it and so on, so they will naturally support its fictional depiction. But this shit will disgust most people, specially since it will call most basic protective instincts we have. Protecting the kids, the weak, those who cannot be seen as a villain ever.

You aren't going to get to the bottom of this by posting tl;dr on Anon Babble.

TL;DR

If a lolicon is a pedophile, then a CS:GO player is a mass-murdering terrorist

true that

Didn't read. Same shit as always I imagine. Society does mental gymnastics and clings to dual standards like crazy over this topic.
Hate filled people wanna fuck with others so they do. Aside from pearl clutching that is all there is or ever was to this.

No error detected, but good luck convincing anyone of it

What I find very frustrating is I know where this anti-loli mentality came from and it began with shadman.
Lolicon art was considered just a fictional thing and not taken as seriously as it is today but I remember pretty fucking well the moment where anti-loli mob became a majority. That when shadman drew a real life child, keemstars daughter, as a loli which is fucked up and wrong but people then took it as a main example as to why loli's should be banned entirely and lolicons be branded as pedophiles.
This doesn't sit right because people quickly forgave the columbine shootings and other schools shooting being inspired by violent games but this was something that was apparently unforgivable.

We live in an age where fictional depictions of minors is detested while real life murder is endorsed.

I aint reading all that but theres no point trying to convince anti pedos of anything, if you like little girls, irl or in a anime drawing form, just keep it to yourself and your internet friends. You have a biological and existential right to be attracted to whatever the fuck you want. Fuck haters YOLO

Then folk need to do a better job at confronting all the opposition of their blatant (unjustifiable) bigotry the narcissism of a double standard to the contrary at its Specific core. [Sincerity over everything] There is a lazininess and (petty) bandwagoning occurring to evade their accountability to the fact that what they're doing themselves is wrong and dismissing scientifically proven facts to the matter to uphold mutilation let alone murder to condescend distraction is in of itself unjustifiable

Inner Bigoted (malignant) Narcissistic control freak tantrums/tendencies erupt from these sincere facts that only prove the point.

That technically means other
People have a superior
Perception of simultaneous multidimensional occurring Reality experiences of infinite potential/possibilities and you simply
have feedback of inevitable intimate/sexually exciting ecstatic experiences

But again its
NPC mundane sheeple or the standard human tending to hate what they don't understand. The opposition to these
Instances of oppositional society
is the pinnacle epitome of unjustifiable sadistic/malignant/typical narcissistic control freak tantrum meets FOAMO on meth when you realize the covert bigotry.

Sincerity over everything.

Shatter the condescending (mind) spells of deception that blatantly perpetuate the misery the agony the pain trauma and needless suffering on all levels of The human experience with sincerity (of) facts and standing on truth regardless otherwise it justifies karmic blowback and or the equivalent

true shit y'all are spitting. To add to this tragedy is the fact that most people who are against lolicons are usually outed as actual pedophiles, ironically enough.

There’s a real life case to be made for what people consider loli in fiction, women whose biological clocks stop before puberty never developing breasts getting taller or having periods. But distinctly not children in any real sense.

Those women are stuck in hell because of the double standards and hypocrisy of society at large. Thrown under the bus along with any fool brave enough to date let alone have sex with them.

unjustifiable

Honestly, I am going to keep it real its not unjustifiable. Most normies will have quite the issue when you mention that you like small and young girls.
Like, sure I don't have a problem as long as its fictional but if you label it as young child and treat it like pedophilia then I have issues as well.

What the main core of the issue is the hypocrisy and lack of sincerity that doesn't sit well with anyone with 2 braincells in their head. Who the fuck endorses murder? That shit already lowers the pedestal of you having even the slightest weight in any argument.

war is murder sanctioned by the state

Murder is sanctioned by everyone in many different forms, revenge killings, war, etc.

True shit? WTF are you talking about? This dude either has aphasia or is a GPT-2 bot. And it is not a tragedy that y'all perverts cannot be seen as respectable citizens if you publicly admit you wank to cartoon depictions of 4 year olds. It is expected, even if there is nothing materially wrong with it.

I am speaking of murder in a petty way, like losing an online argument or disagreeing with a person. That type of murder isn't okay in the slightest.

I agree with you, Anon.

For many anti-loli advocates, the motivation can be genuine concern: they see anything resembling child exploitation — even in fiction — as something that desensitizes people to harm, and they believe banning or shaming such content contributes to a healthier social climate, especially for minors. From this angle, their outrage is rooted in moral conviction and a desire to prevent normalization of abuse.

But yes — some people are absolutely LARPing heroes. The internet rewards outrage and moral posturing. Condemning something universally reviled like loli is a low-effort way to gain social capital, especially when it doesn't require real action. Calling it out doesn't stop child abuse, and many of these people won't touch actual child protection work, which involves difficult, slow, and often thankless labor (like supporting underfunded institutions, advocating for mental health care, or helping victims directly).

In short:

Some are sincere, hoping to shift culture in a better direction.

Others are performative, chasing moral superiority points while contributing little of substance.

Both can coexist in the same movement — which is common in emotionally charged causes. Real-world change is slow, but moral posturing online is instant.

Do you feel the performative side is drowning out the real work?

I have recently made the decision to begin translating MILF-themed hentai. This decision is not rooted in a desire to provoke, nor is it meant to make a broad political statement. Rather, it is a personal act — one born from a need to assert my autonomy and push back against a pattern of unfair treatment I’ve experienced.

Despite the fact that my interest in this genre is purely fictional and harms no real individuals, I have been subjected to harassment, mischaracterization, and even real-world hostility. I do not view myself as some stereotypical "MILF enthusiast"; my engagement with this content is private, fantasy-based, and detached from any inappropriate real-world behavior. Yet that distinction has been ignored by those intent on vilifying me.

In response, I’ve chosen to take action — not through confrontation, but through creation. By translating this content, I am participating in a broader defense of the right to explore fiction without fear or shame. This is not about convincing others to share my preferences; it’s about standing up against attempts to police what is permissible to imagine, consume, or enjoy in private spaces.

This choice represents a form of resistance. It is not driven by malice, but by a need to protect my dignity, to express myself, and to contribute to a culture where creative and personal freedoms are not dictated by those who would rather silence than understand. If my actions serve as a counterweight to the censorship and judgment I’ve faced, then I consider that a meaningful outcome.

We all have a right to engage with fictional media in ways that reflect our private tastes and identities — so long as they do not infringe on the rights or safety of others. I am simply exercising that right, and I intend to continue doing so without apology.

You guys would jerk off to actual kids if given the chance though

3d child porn is actually very easy to gain access to, if you're not low iq

fortunately i'm extremely low iq so i'm safe.

My point is that Loli still exacerbates people's pedophilic tendencies. I think a good analogy would be that you're punching a pillow so you don't punch other people, but you're not actually treating your anger issue

against a pattern of unfair treatment I’ve experienced.

even real-world hostility

stereotypical "MILF enthusiast"

Hold up, you're getting hate by liking mature women?
What?

Instagram is full of little girls in sexy leotards thanks to their boomer parents whoring them out on the internet so why wouldn't you
Too risky and illegal, it's been made obsolete by AI anyway, all the fun with none of the exploitation

you gotta replace MILF with loli in that post, T
things start to make a lot more sense

Are you fuckin' blind?
Look at it, look.
Shit looks like its written by the terminator. It feels inhuman and utterly devoid of emotional reason.
Its a prompt that wrote this for christ sake.
It has to be.

The usual argument always pops up when arguments like this are made

b-b-b-but it will convert people in to pedos!

Oh? Like GTA, COD and Mario made a fuckload of killers? (you bet your ass Mario is violent, he's crushing poor animals)
Violent, taboo media has in every single instance resulted in massive DECLINES in criminal activity when you account for every other facet that could influence it.
The rising cost of gaming in some areas has noticeably impacted increasing crime rates.

Can media depicting crimes convert some people to perform those crimes?
Damn straight they can, but those people are a very small minority of mentally deranged people who cannot see the moral issue of hurting real people. These people could easily be found in the education system and given a proper framework of help could be prevented from causing significant crimes by showing them exactly how and why it's bad to hurt others.
Will that happen? Will it fuck, many countries are controlled specifically through fear and crime, usually by their own damn criminal governments who are sometimes even guilty of some of these crimes!

The people who cannot see the difference between physical crimes and virtual representations of them are the dangerous ones.
They're exactly the kinds of people that end up on news articles because they raped some kid, or fucked an animal, or murdered someone, or abused their kids through torture for years / decades.
Usually bitter and hate-filled dogmatic beliefs, be it religious or otherwise.
These are the people that need watched and helped to prevent them causing crime.

still if the art required CSAM material to be created then i will crucify, but if it was done completely "clean" then maybe its safe.

A loli sex game is not plated to master the rules and skill, it is for masturbation.

that entirely depends on how wide your definition of child porn would be and what reasons you have for making that definition as wide as you see fit. one can make a legal argument or a moral one but since laws do not define morality and morality does not dictate law, one is easier to argue for than the other.

dropping a TRVTHNVKE

what i say is simple, if any part of the art required actual children to be harmed to create it then it must be destroyed and the owner jailed. But if its completely free of harm then legally its sound but i still find it icky.

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once more then you'd have to define what you consider morally to be "harmed". what if your own definition of "harmed" is either too wide or too narrow to be in accordance with the law for example? if it's too wide then you ought to be making the argument that your own morals should dictate law, and if it's too narrow then the argument should be that the law needs to allow more than what it currently does. people think it's way too simple with things like these when countless legal cases argue back and forth regarding exactly this. harm, i mean, for example. your initial argument just begs the question of "well, what is "harm" then?" and the answer simply being "whatever i feel like it is"

Neat self-portrait.

Nahh
Being "too smart" ALWAYS
highlights narcissists like you
who tend to Harm, the easiest.

Lazy dumbfucks who use chatgpt like always ALWAYS using condescending distractions to evade their insecurity that shrouds their bigotry the only judgement comes from within those who don't have positive meaningful intimate experience from a scientifically proven universally natural occurrence (or can't handle the fact that it does,) or have had an unjustifiably traumatically-negative experience from it and aren't cognitively/morally/spiritually mature to heal cope or transcend it.

Also Telepathy is real. Not to mention
Collective sexual bigotry is also the biggest form of narcissistic abuse conducted by humanity the attempts of gate keeping realms experiences and memories is pinnacle peak cope and seethe.

If it were genuine concern by the same logic they would be equally scrambling over themselves to condemn depictions of mutilations and cartoon dogs getting dicked. Where is the screaming about wmds and other weapons of war? No where to be seen unless you make a point to hunt for it. They literally treat a beauty standard, sex, and desire for companionship as well as any resemblance to it as worse than being nuked. If their concern was for kids they would advocate for things that were a substitute such as sex dolls or at least at the extreme minimum an environment that was friendly enough for people to feel safe enough to seek therapy.
Instead what we have are bullies with a sense of superiority striving to harm others as much as possible and then scratching their head when endless abuse does not provide the desired results. So they think to themselves its not working well enough. We must need more of the same. The predictable result being doubling down on an obviously cruel and flawed method that only ever leads to more dystopian garbage foisted upon us all.

I don't think loli equates to pedophilia

no, I'm not sexually interested in children, I'm only sexually interested in drawings of children

Maybe some day somebody will believe that

ANONS!?

WHY ARE LITTLE BABY GIRLS SO SLUTTY AND SEDUCTIVE????!!!!!!

Yeah for real and we wonder why the world is fucked up? Give me a break.
These fuckers wanna choke you out for choking your chicken!

So, as someone whose internet addled brain makes me get off on the extremes of taboo, for the sake of pushing the limits of taboo, up until that fine line dividing it from actual moral harm: Stop trying to get others to accept it. You're ruining it for the rest of us.

What I find very frustrating is I know where this anti-loli mentality came from and it began with shadman.

People weren't opposed to pedos until shadman

You retarded?

It is about being able to control your urges. As if you have never wanted to beat somebody to death when they cut you off in traffic. That doesn't mean you are a murderer.

I can find little girls sexy and be comfortable with myself knowing I would never act on it.

Well that depends, there's a difference between urges and simply being able to see the appeal in something without necessarily feeling compelled. Urges are also brief while others experience theirs as being a part of their sexuality but not the majority of it.
One can and should feel comfortable with that and even if you do have intimate experiences like i have had, it should be equally fine as long as the outcome is not harmful

It started with our Over 9000 joke on Oprah. Normies flooded Anon Babble looking for thousands of rapists to yell at and all they found was hentai to get indignant over.

Anti-loli does not equate to anti-pedo. Normies didn't even know loli existed for a long time. Even after it became more widely known for a good while the two things were for the most part not treated as the same subject. No one sensible thinks MLP fans want to go out and fuck a horse and for the majority of them they don't. Same thing more or less and people were once sane enough to notice this without explanation.

if a real child is required to perform a sensual or sexual act to create the artwork, then it must be destroyed.

A tad extreme. I think it will be fine if we let the child live. Do they have any say in this?

Then ban video games for promoting murder

Lolis don't even look like real kids.
Lolis are perfect, kids look like hairless chimps.

Anti lolicons turn their brains off to avoid confronting their own double standards.

If Loli hentai is pedophilia then gta is murder. Simple as. If you want to ban one then you are apt to ban the other.

I’m short intelligent and long term thinkers will understand you are calling for facism and authoritarianism when you want to ban loli hentai. It’s the first step up a slippery slope.

everytime someone writes a long spergout like this, they 100% partake, if you get what I mean. Just another Vaush.

Lolis are literally only possible in hentai, it’s like calling trannies futanari or some shit. Or the trap thing where they draw a completely female character and then go surprise she has a dick. Not real.

satanic trips checked

jz, destroy the child!?

well as a developer of porn games the actual term we used is futa if it was a female with a penis. Its how we did stuff like hide content with flags.

nah just the art, tho the child will be taken away and hopefully given a better home.

It really is. The first thing I check for when people claim to support free speech is if they support and allow loli. If they don't then there are only ever two possibilities. They are obeying the law or they are a liar.
I knew a nice site that got bought out. First they nuked loli content in the comments, then nudes, then the comment section entirely. Now most of not all former content on the site is gone and it is a hollow husk of its former self.
That was a mirocosm of what has happened elsewhere countless times over.