Life is boring unless you daydrink in moderation

Probably, I’m pretty bored with where I’m at now.

i had liver disease at 28, had DTs a couple of times and they were fucking awful. wasn't at cirrhosis levels apparently, but based on my gamma-GTs (liver midi-chlorians) i was on the cusp.

as for the shakes, that's pretty damn normal anon.

had liver disease at 28

due to boozin or something else?

just booze. never cared for other drugs (at the time).

LSD got/kept my sober. also, being sober is boring. (the first week or so is great. go do a medically-assisted detox if you can. you don't have to do anything: just sit around sedated on diazepam.)

It's not actually true but it becomes true after you cross the line of alcoholism, and you won't know it the instant it happens, but you will start understanding pretty quickly what you have finally done.

is this true?

sure, after you get past the age of 11 or 12

Just stick to a few beers and you'll be right. It's when you get into spirits it gets dangerous.

DTs and shakes are two entirely different things. DTs are like hallucinations and seizures and shit. You can shake and it's not the DTs, but yes you are physically addicted at that point.

That middle level just doesn't exist for me anymore, if I have a few drinks I feel nothing but a vaugely upset stomach, so I have to drink enough to where it will effect me the next morning to feel anything fun at the time. This has caused me to almost completely stop drinking which is fine. It was fun back when I could drink a six pack a night and feel fine the next day but that's over now

Damn if I could drink in moderation, I'd drink all the time.

yeah i didn't know what DTs were. it was like a bad trip: woke up in a seizure in a pool of sweat, thinking spiders were crawling over me and i was dying.

if you can drink in moderation please do. if you are an alcoholic, try to wean and/or get help. even if you feel like you are uniquely hopeless etc etc.

weird af, since contributing to this thread, suddenly my youtube recommended feed is full of 'stop drinking' videos.

Why are you still drinking?
Stop drinking now, and start doing community service instead. Go to church, volunteer, be a helping hand to your community.

same thing happened last week when I was chatting about personal debt on a Anon Babble thread. next thing you know, I had that fat yank Caleb financial audit guy's vids get recommended all day.

being an alcoholic

shakes

physical withdrawal

liver damage

being a pothead

somewhat lazy

think slower

come over to the green side of life. if you gotta be a junkie then at least pick a drug that is not literal poison

There are insane genetical differences how you can tolerate alcohol. Some people are almost made to druk.

I don't like other people

Me, I’m made to druk. I have a good tolerance and my motor skills honestly don’t take a real hit when I’m shit faced. Honestly, I think I’m gonna get drunk this evening and go see Clown in a Cornfield and Fight or Flight back to back since I have regal unlimited and a free popcorn that expires in a couple days.

Fortunately, I can’t get addicted to things. Thank god desu; I may get shit faced a couple times a week, but I never have a craving for it and will just do long stretches without a drop because I want to. I can’t comprehend the people who have one drink and then can’t stop.

What the hell are you talking about, man? There’s no tolerance build up, and you just wake up hungover occasionally. There’s no shakes, you’re just a shitty drinker

why are you and that other anon saying this nonsense? of course you become tolerant to alcohol.

i relapsed after a couple of years and was surprised i could FEEL a double shot of vodka. i thought people were just exaggerating that they were tipsy after a couple of pints.

you's trollin

one time I saw a guy get kicked out of a store, and when I was a kid I saw my friend’s dad drunk once and he said hi

the shame is so fucking palpable

You are a fucking dumbass, man

I guess not everyone’s as crazy an alcoholic as you. I don’t play games with how drunk a shot gets me, or if it’s ’working’ or not, so that’s probably why you’re a relapsing alcoholic and I’m not

what's got you so upset anon? an alkie fuck your gf?

Bugs me when people slander drinking and day-drinking and then you find out they’re massive alcoholics projecting their disease in ways that are often just not true for anyone but them

not sure what you're getting at. no one was claiming you're getting dt's and massive tolerance build-up from being just a bit of a boozer.

It is for me. Went without drinking for 3 months this year and I realized I had zero will to be involved in any kind of social interaction.

it's genetic. Most people would get shakes and obvious withdrawal symptoms. Others just can't get addicted. The difference we see between people on a neurological level is astounding. And you can't know beforehand. These neurological changes making you more adept at consuming alcohol may be brain deep and you'll fail at your liver. Then there's people with a liver that goes above and beyond what's possible, but who get severely addicted easily. Those are the worst ones since you never get a clear sign from your body to stop.

DTs are onlt there when you are an alcoholic. Basically drinking every day.
i been a pisshead since I was in my late teens, drinking hard for over 20 years but never been an alcoholic. I have had alcohol poisoning twice though, once not my fault as I was spiked but binge drinking is one of my 2 only hobbies.
Difference is I rest, eat, used to exercise but not any more.
Sure I might go on a 3 day bender here and there but I am not bendering 3 days every week, or of course drinking every day.
The whole point is to enjoy yourself (I dont really enjoy the drink, I just enjoy being drunk)
not be crippled and fucked up because you drink so much

I'm getting to that point. I either drink two beers or twelve. It's hard getting to six, they taste like shit, but once I do, I have to get completely shitfaced.
Great motivation to quit, only issue is that I get super bored when sober.
t. 11 years of alcohol

druk thread

retarded ganja gremlin promotes the devil's lettuce

Go be a nigger somewhere else, last time I smoked I thought I was about to unlock schizophrenia, you need to be completely braindead to use it.

being a pothead

somewhat lazy

think slower

drop 50 iq points

suddenly attracted to cocks

won't shut the fuck up about pot

I used to drink about 50 cl of vodka an evening for about 2 years, never had shakes..or were hung over either.
Personally I think it's because I used to eat a bunch of fatty snacks at the same time.

Could just be age. Up until my mid 20's i had to get blitzed out of my mind to feel a hangover. and that was with me being a scrawny fuck that barely eats half the time.

I'm almost 40 my guy
anyways i stopped drinking one day because I was tired of having the shits 24/7

stop having unresolved internal issues and/or smoke less

it's more fun being stupid than it is useful to be smart

the problem is that the 'moderation' part is soon dropped.

It's true

have been boozing fairly heavily for 12 years and I have never ever got to any sort of shakes level. Meme.

Then you are a pathetic liar and your boozing "fairly heavily" is actually baby league

These fucking threads are filled with absolute retards like you

ugh yeah i'm such an alcoholic i drank literally nothing for a year i'm so le depressed

Real niggas who drink a whole bottle of vodka or a 12 pack of tall boys a day just don't seem to exist anymore.

The post i initially replied to claimed moderation is impossible because ‘tolerance’ leads you to drink enough you have to drink more in the morning to recover from shakes. Some real idiots out here

The shakes become the worst after a couple of days if you've been boozing for a long time. If you regularly drink every night your body expects it's coming and the withdrawals don't start yet.

think he was referring to just drinking non-stop around the clock indefinitely, rather than a bender or some daydrinking.

quit drinking

next thing you know is that you are importing millions of violent criminals because you ran out of people to help and can't get drunk on your good deeds anymore

many such cases

let me guess, heavy boozing means three beers before bed. come back when you struggle to login on your computer because you're spazzing all over the place. wine helps with the morning shakes but still, 20 minutes at least of hand activity so you don't bash your mouse around and it sucks.
yes this is my limit, sometimes i'm afraid to turn this on because i'll just keep bashing the keyboard with a "wrong password" message
today was surprisingly okay. that one scene in leaving las vegas is unfortunatly relatable

i also said you have to go to the off-licence and speak to the nice Indian man.

you don't, anon. i'll admit it: that one was just me.

you build up a tolerance

The tolerance means you need to drink more to even feel any effect. Which will end up killing you.

day after feel like shit.

do they enjoy the nausea and headaches?

Moderation is not possible in long term for most people. But yes, life is fucking boring and alcohol makes it tolerable. Opening another strong lager rn.

If you are an alcoholic I recommend a couple drops of HHC oil instead. Your stomach doesnt want booze when you have it too.

The trick is to never stop drinking. It's hard for a non-alcoholic to understand the morbid depression that last for weeks when trying to go sober.

back in the day i could hug the toilet and go to class the next day. now, not so much. but if i force fed my 20 yo self what i'm drinking now i'd end up in hospital
le slippery slope face. just drink 5% more than the year previous and then do the calculation what it looks like after 15 years

What is moderation? 2 pints / 3 glasses of wine?

Sounds like some commie gobbledygook

just had half a bo'l o wine

Americans can't buy alcohol in the morning

Land of Free status?

an hour or a day? serious question

3 glasses of wine an hour

WHAT A LIFE

A day. What is portrayed in the movie? That's my personal definition of moderation.

everything is just so fucking boring without alcohol

I'm at the point where I'll have to consider quitting drinking, just because of my aging. When I drink, I'm bedridden for two days after. I quit liquor, I quit whine, not I'm indirectly getting the news from my body I'm going to have quit beers and smoking too if I want to live another twenty years. If I had a family, maybe it would be worth it. I've been starting to ask myself the question on why I should live like a monk if its only purpose is to prolongue my life. It's just a personal thing, nobody can help me with it. I need to find out where my priorities lie. I like being here, but do I like being here enough to live like a monk? Might as well consider joining a monestary. I can't do sports anymore either, because I broke my back. Spinal. Of what use can I be to other people or to myself? I guess I'm having somewhat of a midlife crisis, but without the divorce or the brand new sportscar.

Yeah. People always tell to get hobbies instead of drinking. I have hobbies. But literally everything is more fun drunk.

It varies by state but basically between 1am and 7am they don't sell alcohol so that people who are already blacked out can go flying down the wrong side of the rode and through a house trying to get another handle of crystal palace

Ngl brehs... these tall boy Stella Artois going fucking hard

This. I read that the liver can handle something insane, like 12 beers in one night, easily, as long as it's not EVERY night.
The hard stuff is harder on the liver and it can't do that particularly well.

I find life dreadful while sober. I don't get hammered, but I try to drink in a regular basis.
Most of the time it makes whatever I'm doing better and it always turns socializing from dreadful to entertaining.

If I didn't get sleepy when I drink I'd probably day drink every single weekend

It's hard when you're a boring asshole sober and a likeable and funny guy drunk

nobody could drink that much

It's the other way around, I'm always likeable and funny.

I've been drinking beers for two years now after I got a herniated disc and I've grown mantits. They fucking bounce when I walk. The upside is you don't behave like a basketcase when you're on beers, day to day life is still manageable. You won't lose jobs and you won't insult family or friends. But you grow a gut and boobs, which you don't have with liquor and wine. Chosing is losing.

I used to be likeable and funny, but then I lost it

No really, first post was right. Sometimes I feel that when I drink a bit of the guy I was crawls back.

I don't really think moderation is drinking every day. Moderation is drinking on weekends and/or on special occasions.

If you drink 3 beers per day after work all you're going to do is build up a tolerance, but if you drink 9 beers every Saturday you'll have fun. That's the golden ticket.

weekends

But drinking away your weekends is stupid. On weekends you can do whatever you want and have fun.
It's the work-days that a few drinks can wash away.

So the compromise is to drink every day

The only reason I drink is because it tends to force away my stress. Like I kinda forget about it for a few hours.
Typing this out, that doesn't sound like a healthy way to handle that problem.

Fun fact, in my cunt the DMW has decided that if you drink too much, even though you always drive sober, they will take your driver's license away. And doctors are obliged to report you by taking a blood test that traces your alco consumption 4 weeks back.
Which means people who drink "too much" (24 beers a week) avoid going to the doctor now.

what the hell do you have to stress about that's so horrible

I've never seen beer sold in those tiny coca cola cans around here.

I am one of those overthinking faggots who creates anxiety where there is no need for it which leads to stress for no reason and let my entire life orbit around it.
Fun life, can recommend.

I think those small cans are an American thing. Cans in my country are 0.5l.

You just need something stronger than booze. I recommend acquiring a meth addiction.

I unironically do all of that while drinking.

effect me the next morning

I am convinced this "hung over" shit is a larp.
I've had 20 beers and woken up just fine. Just drink some water for fucks sake.

I was about to unlock schizophrenia

Same. Only I was smart enough to realize it was due to my own emotional headspace rather than whats normally supposed to happen.

No one cares about your golden liver fag.

Very recognizable. You could say it's womanlike behavior, creating problems where there are none. On the other hand, you could say it's a sign of intelligence where you struggle because you see problems arizing at the horizon. I've learnt to let things go more. Which is annoying as well, because I lose part of my purpose when I don't preemptively work to avoid problems for others.

Lol which draconian shithole do you live in?

Fair. I'm happy you found some way to let go a little.
Nice trips by the way.

I can’t comprehend the people who have one drink and then can’t stop.

My dark passenger is powered by the chemical that releases in my body when I consume alcohol. He's easy enough to contain when I'm sober, but only needs a drop to be fully unleashed.

Yes humans have been drinking since the dawn of time

True, but that was mostly water.

It's not womanlike. Women by and large go about their lives with blind confidence in their stupidity.

just smoke weed you retards

Beer, actually. Safe drinking water wasn't abundant until very recently.

Proper moderation, meaning simply drinking for your health, is to drink only a truly tiny amount
Half a glass every 3 or 4 days

I think it's more a case of : "I've given up.". At some point you want to be rewarded for your efforts. Or is that the wrong way of looking at it? I've got a sob story, just like every other drunk or junkie. I think the will to punch back has just left me a bit with aging. I'm still here, but less potent. It's a natural process, I think. Many feel called, but few are chosen. And then you have to reconcile those two. Did I have a botched life by only having superficial interactions?

This. While an overthinker creates problems because he speculates about what the future could hold and prepares for every (or most) outcome, which creates anxiety, a woman creates problems exclusively for attention or to create social drama.
Those two issues are not the same.

dude just turn your brain off

I cant, unfortunately.

nails

YWNBAW

stop overthinking

everything I stressed about comes to fruition all at once

T-Thanks

Fair point. But you create drama inside your own head still, while there is no need for it. Nobody is asking you for it. But you're right that one is for attention and the other is there because you are looking for more efficiency or to provide more quality.

That's even worse. A beer relaxes me. Weed makes me add a couple of more layers and backtrack all my decisions with those added layers. Sometimes I wonder if it's because Europeans add nicotine to their weed. Never understood why you would put those two together.

You're the old guy aren't you

Sometimes I wonder if it's because Europeans add nicotine to their weed. Never understood why you would put those two together.

Huh? Yeah you roll a blunt because you don't want to smoke a whole fucking gram at once. Also it hits better with tobacco.

im one of those people weed makes them worse and more anxious/paranoid, alcohol is much better for me and actually makes me feel better

これはスレッドですか?

Weak people use drugs and alcohol as a crutch.

you dumb faggots know this movie is a work of FICTION, right?

Youre supposed to ride out the paranoia until you reach the fog. Yes everyone hated you and we're coming to get you, but you'll be fine.

This.
One of the easiest indication (although not reliable) is to see which way the alcohol will out itself from you4 system. If its from upper mouth then there's a chance that you're not build for druk, if its from bottom mouth then theres a big chance that you are build for druk

I finally had to get a job after scamming my way into neethood for years and holy fuck how do people live like this. No wonder people drink.
I have zero time to myself. I come home exhausted, lay in bed and doomscroll until I fall asleep. I'm constantly sleep deprived. I can't cook, I can't draw, I can't play vidya, I can't go out with my friends. I can't do anything. I get one day a week off and I've either gotta speedrun errands I couldn't do through the week cause by the time I'm off work everyone else is too so all shops are closed, or I just lay in bed all day.
Do I seriously have to do this for 50 odd years until I die? I went from bingedrinking for fun when I were out with friends to genuinely craving alcohol to calm myself once I'm home and it's just been like a month. Legitimately considering killing myself.

It's hard when you're a boring asshole sober and a likeable and funny guy drunk

Just stop being a boring asshole sober. You don't need alcohol.

なんという人生でしょう!

you have a mental illness. seek professional help.

It was 1-2% ABV... same as adding 1 part wine to 9 parts water (which the wealthy people drank)

BTW in Europe drinking got so bad that before WW1 beer had 12-15% ABV

Vegas is a city in the dessert, lel. No humans are supposed to live there. It's a confrontation that you can do anything if you have money. Here we have Nicolas Cage, sitting in the dessert, in a suit, drinking a Martini with olives. It's a pessimistic movie, not only on alcoholism, but it shows you that you can do anything if you have money and are willing to pay for it. That shouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but that's the way we seem to be dealing with it. It's fun to feel decadent, I'm not going to deny it.

You are one of those faggots who used to write on evey iMDB board when people were having a discussion "it's just a movie bro"
Well fuck you

This also bugged me. It doesn't even have to be the slippery slope they make it out to be. The experiment didn't fail, they just stopped doing it and got shitfaced instead.

50cl of vodka is only like two six-packs of beer

Yeah no fucking shit, that's why it's called a crutch. You don't use a crutch if your legs are really strong.

Incredibly realistic, actually.

A blunt is like 3 grams of weed you faggot yurostarve. A rolled cigarette with weed in it is a spliff.

Is suffering through life a virtue? Debatable in my opinion.

Some people with strong legs use a crutch.

Totally. I didn't mean it bugged me in the "the movie is flawed" sense, but more in the curious sense where I would have liked to see what actually happens if you do keep following that rule.

Whatever. I'm not in on your gay weed lingo.

Well they're stupid. Leave some crutches for the rest of us.

The point is that the hypothesis is flawed and impossible in the long run.

be clueless yurostarve faggot

make authoritative claim

get called a clueless yurostarve faggot

I d-don't even c-care....

Fuck off

I bet you anything it's Australia

8/9AM: swig of vodka or whiskey to start the day

lunch: glass of wine

afternoon: small sips on beer

dinner: another glass of wine

this sounds reasonable, you'd get a nice buzz throughout the day without being a slurring drunk

You're sperging over a movie that's built on a fake premise. Touch grass.

off-licence

he's Bri'ish

I think you should stop smoking it's making you irrationally angry.

I've often wondered if some pills wouldn't help me. Sometimes I attain a level of conciousness where I'm quite content. I've done the usual suspects: Liquor, beer, wine, cocaine, xtc, mdma, crack (one time), speed, Ketamine.

They haven't really done anything to feel me feel more at ease in society. I'd like something that makes me feel more at ease with society without numbing me. I was born in a context where pills for medication, even for physical pain, are taboo and still are.

The other ones are just more socially aceppted. But who knows, maybe there's a pill out there that could make me feel more at ease. It's just that it's been marked as degenerate.

Exercise and a healthy lifestyle don't do it either, they just make you more resilient.

Learn to enjoy what you can about your job and try not to turn it into a mental prison to the best of your ability. Even in my worst jobs there were little things ive found that will sort of get you through particularly bad days. Since you were a neet I can only assume youre socially autistic but if you can find a way to chit chat with people about literally anything that can also help. Obviously you're never gonna love it but there are so many tortured cunts out in the workforce that its actually depressing.

When you get home I'd recommend learning how to cook actually. I like get most of the chopping out of the way and then binge drink while following some meme TikTok recipe and making a shitty version of it. I used to hate cooking because it felt like a waste of time but I dont do shit anyway so now I sort of look forward to it. Its a valuable to skill to git gud at and you eventually will just by virtue of doing it all the time.

what's that? You actually just can't go full retard at moments notice? There must be something wrong with you, seek help!

K

I definitely wouldn't touch opiates or benzos. That shit ruins people and makes them braindead. I've seen it many times. It definitely makes you feel at ease but it fucks your brain chemistry so badly.

I started drinking because of my ex. I hated her so much I needed to be drunk to be around her. I cut back once I dumped her and kicked her out

I don't smoke nigger weed you faggot yurostarve. Go on and make another gutless fagpost like the ESL yurosissy you are.

Is suffering through life a virtue?

Suffering... willingly? No. You can easily start the process of fixing your life.

I accept your concession.

I haven't had a beer since november but this was the one I liked most. I turned 35 and just stopped. Great memories, great tastes, great music, great bars, great friends. I don't regret drinking but its a young man's game.

I've had a housemate who was on drugs. He had a head on his shoulders. I lend him my car. He'd be gone with it for two days. I gave him my trust. He'd come back with it and it would be filled with empty beer cans. We had a row over it, where I told him I took him into my house and I lend him my car and it's not the intention that I would clean up his empty beer cans in my car after him. The next time it was filled with empty soda cans. Come one dude. I'm not your goddamn father. He was the same age as me, 40. Afterwards I learned he didn't even have a driver's licence, I would've been fucked if he had an accident with my car. Pills and drugs are mainly for faggots. I still think beer and weed should be socially acceptable. I might change my mind on that in the future, who knows.

or i could just hace a couple of cocktails and have a good time
weed is for losers who cant deal with life and just want time to pass by

Drinking gets old quick

Anon Babble

It's over.

False. Moderation is boring.

Meth can be a lot of fun. But I had to give it up. Too much wear and tear on the body.

eeeh, there was a time i spent an entire month day-drinking from breakfast til bedtime. But to be fair, I had a kind of warranty to go full stupid mode because I was living with a buddy who was an officer. felt like I had a license with to be dumbo with someone like that around.
get boring and you become very dependent after a while so not really worth it
I haven't drank in months, and it only wears me off now I barely find the experience enjoyable anymore.

Idiot. I use drugs because I enjoy being high.