I was just wondering...

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I was just wondering...

I was just wondering, how come Americans think that such a huge rate of murder in the USA is not caused by the fact that every psychopathic moron can own a gun/rifle in the USA? That's surreal.

Also, whenever a police officer is involved in the slightest situation in the traffic or on the streets, he has to think that the person PROBABLY has the fire weapon with him. Well OF COURSE the police officer will fire at even the SLIGHTEST possibility that the suspect is armed, even tho sometimes he's not.

You don't believe me that American laws are as stupid as it gets? Just look at the statistics around the world.

Yeah but you can make that type of argument for anything. Take it a bit further and it's exactly the same as the Chinese government saying "look guys we have the lowest rate of violent riots so our political system is superior"
Now I get that you have to make compromises but I would rather be on the side of freedom rather than on the side of security. Plus it's easy for less free countries to say that "we have a different culture" but how many executions of homosexuals does a different culture justify?
All of that is to say that Americans are simply used to having the right to shoot up schools when they want to and you can make a thousand arguments why they should give up that right. It's still their right

Outside major cities, the US murder rate isn't bad at all. It has nothing to do with people being able to get guns, except maybe the laws prohibiting gun ownership entirely possibly contributing to death in those same major cities.

You're talking about them allowing for every psycho to own a gun is the definition of a "freedom" and "human rights"?

Why don't they allow everyone to kill whoever they want? Because that would be the ultimate demonstration of "freedom"? It's just stupid.

And also, I really do believe that the weapons manufacturing lobby is running the USA. They also don't care about the victims of the armed lunatics. All they care about is their money.

And you're going to extremes. No one said that the autocracy and dictatorship is good. Why don't you mention the rate of murders in some other advanced modern countries to the USA? Why did you had to mention the shitholes that are even worse than the USA? And even so, the murder ratio doesn't go in favor of the USA.

Let's talk about gun violence and race.
What happens if you take black gun crime numbers out?

i hate constitutional rights

Stay in whatever shithole you're from then faggot.
Leave us alone.

I could make arguments as to why this is misleading, but I don't need to. And even if it was completely as you say, I would still support gun rights. Because I like guns.I like hunting. I like having the agency to defend myself and my property without relying on the state. My family and neighbors like guns too. We hunt and shoot beer cans for fun. We do not need to justify our cultural practices and lifestyles to you. Fuck off.

Lefties and foreigners hate individual rights.
Look at britain, you can get arrested over a meme ffs.

If you actually look at GDP per capita growth, China’s political system is objectively superior to the U.S.’s. They went from a poverty-stricken nation to overtaking the U.S. in manufacturing output and global trade dominance—without invading or exploiting other countries like the U.S. did in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Latin America. Meanwhile, China lifted 800 million people out of poverty (World Bank, 2021) while under sanctions, trade wars, and literal foreign sabotage (Opium Wars, WWII occupation, U.S. tech embargoes). The U.S. built its wealth on slavery, colonialism, and coups; China developed by investing in infrastructure and industry. Anyone denying this is either ignorant of the data or coping with Western decline.

Lol, they have execution vans and tofu dreg construction.
How about all the guang gun like you that cant find a wife?

Its called letting it take care of itself. If you dont own a gun, are white, dont drive like trash and dont commit crime usually your lifespan is a lot longer than those who are criminals without a license pavking heat while being brown. Simple as that. I dont mind if brown people kill eachother, not my fuckin problem.

WASTED GET

How's china's youth unemployment?

How, being white is based as fuck faggot

He's a lefty or a chink, both are useless trash.

I am brazilian, that's why I can be objective discussing this issue.

Oh really, is that why you're pro ccp?
You must be a commie yourself.

You still have all the white school shootings.

And who is doing it now? Trannies.

Yet the average chinese citizen still gets paid A LOT LESS than the average US citizen

But guns are illegal on school grounds. That'll stop everyone with a gun, right?

Who cares? I Haven't been to school in 20 years.

How many rights do the chinese have?
Virtually none.
just think of the shit they do there.
Look up "gutter oil" to see how the chinese live.

No.

Here's the thing about gun control laws: Gun control laws only affect those people WHO OBEY THE LAW!!

It's amazing how that works huh?

Thats not what objective means faggot. Objective is facts not influenced by human interpretation, like gravity, or your moms herpes riddled monkeypox asshole.

Why don't they allow everyone to kill whoever they want? Because that would be the ultimate demonstration of "freedom"? It's just stupid.

That's actually a good counter argument. Like I said I'm in favor of compromises. What I'm trying to say is that it's easy to criticize countries that have more freedoms but it's difficult to appreciate the rare privilege that lies within each freedom.

Why did you had to mention the shitholes that are even worse than the USA?

I am German and for a long time I thought that my country is culturally superior to the US until one day I was listening to some state-funded radio channel moderator talk about the "cultural differences" and that "Americans don't understand that we don't value freedom of speech as much as them, and that civility is important for us Germans". That's when it hit me that I just heard a sentence that I could have heard on Chinese state radio. Germany is not China. I just realized at some point that from the POV of Americans all these arguments are shithole cope.

As some favela dweller he's an expert on the US and it's issues.
Does that make sense to anyone?

I'm not surprised.

The chinese citizens at treated like cogs in the machine. Far more overtly than in the US. At least we get creature comforts in the US.

Lolz, my in-laws are kraut eurotrash, like you.
Have you lived in the US?
Because i have lived in germany and i know how cucked you sad faggots are.

Holy quints, checked

Sweden went from being the safest country of earth to being as safe as Iraq. This is due to the people who have been imported. The problem isn't guns it's the people who are allowed to exist in our society.

Don't twist this on me. I knew what I said. School shootings after mostly done by white teenage boys (and the one or two off asian teenage boys).

Ever heard of any black boys song school shootings?

Didn't think so.

Correct... when you let in the violent masses, you get a violent society.

Blacks kill each other like crazy since many of them don't go to school.
Let's look at gun crime in the US with out the black numbers added in shall we?

Without African Americans murder rate wouldn’t be high btw

You proved my point:

don't go to school

Just admit you hate black people and take the L.

Let's see how it would be if only whites had firearms.

Nah, I’m not waving a CCP flag or a U.S. one—both are sharks in the global tank, and Brazil’s tired of being bait. As a Brazilian, I say we tell them both to piss off and build our own path. The U.S. has screwed us over for decades: in the 1950s, they blocked Brazil from getting German gas centrifuge tech to keep us from mastering uranium enrichment, forcing us to rely on their nuclear scraps. Then in 1975, when we signed a massive nuclear deal with West Germany for reactors and enrichment tech, the U.S. threw a fit, pressuring Germany to limit the transfer because they didn’t want Brazil joining the nuclear club. Oh, and let’s not forget the 1964 coup—CIA operatives were neck-deep in Brazil’s intelligence, and President Johnson sent a naval task force, Operation Brother Sam, to back the military takeover. Fast forward to 2013, Snowden’s leaks exposed the NSA spying on President Rousseff’s emails and Petrobras, our state oil company, to keep tabs on our economy. Underdeveloped nations get steamrolled in this game.

What "l"? the fact that most gun violence in the us if from blacks?

that actually happens more often than you think but you don't hear about it in the media because they are black and it is seen as normal. It's not really categorized in the same way.

Your little shithole is irrelevant.
Deal with it and rage from you shitty favela made shitty by your corrupt countrymen.

QUINTS YALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure, but I'll be soon welcoming you to the irrelevant club, my racist fat brotha.

You can have a healthy economy without dictatorship. A country where you get disappeared for criticising the regime is not worth living in for any reason.

Nope, you keep on seething from your tiny shack.
Why don't you tell me who is up and coming since you aren't waving the ccp flag.

2025

celebrating macros

Kids nowadays are really fucking dumb.

China doesn't have a healthy economy.
Only idiots believe ccp numbers.

Name a country that’s not a dictatorship, I’ll wait. Far as I know, the US jails people for spilling data that should be public info and props up dictators everywhere else.

Audited by the World Bank and IMF, dumbass. Go to China, look at it yourself, but first you need to leave mama basement and find a job.

We voted for our president, that isn't a dictatorship,

Stop derailing my point, jackass.

White. Kids. Shoot. Up. Schools.

Your percentiles are FLAWED!!!

Canada

Have you lived in the US?

No. I hope that I can move there one day.

i have lived in germany and i know how cucked you sad faggots are

Can you describe it? What was your experience like?

Fucking lol, i bet you think the WHO is a fine unbiased organization too?

If you take the nigger murder out of the equation, the USA is safer than Lichtenstein
No Niggers = No Murders.

I believe Trump is better for Brazil than Biden since he’s less focused on foreign policy and diplomacy. However, he’s clearly a flamboyant showman, and his voter base—mostly uneducated rednecks—seems to support him more for entertainment than genuine respect.

mostly uneducated rednecks

You base this on what exactly?
You know a lot of republican voting americans do you?

Likely more than you think. Living there doesn’t automatically make you an expert—it can actually deepen your biases. I’m not bothering to cite sources since you’ll probably just dismiss them with some nonsense like, “NOOO, THAT’S LEFTIST PROPAGANDA!!!! ONLY FOX NEWS TELLS THE TRUTH!!!”

Nice Strawman.
You're just a leftist shill.
You're no expert on the us, you live in an echo bubble of us hating leftists.

I dont hate you, do you hate me?

Nope,
I hope you manage a good life in the place you reside.

Same.

I just don't presume to know more about a country than the people who live there.
I wouldn't tell you how to run your country.

Sorry, I can't hear your worthless European/Canadian opinion over the cyclic rate of my M2 Browning.

I dare you to post your thread on . You'll get ripped to shreds, laughed off the board, then banned. If you do make your thread, link it here.

its duh wypipo

Ok nigger. Better than brazil where the streets are run by cartel.

Maybe the problem is violent niggers have guns, and not that a loving father owns a gun to protect his family. Ever consider that?

inb4 buh dah wypipo shoot skool!

Why do you think they do that? Maybe because they live in a jewish psyop of a world where schools are set up for girls at the expense of boys, shovelled slop feminist and lgbt and "mixing pot" bullshit down their throats, exist in 0 tolerance for violence systems where they get blamed as the assailant if they stand up for themselves, are ignored by the faggot and female teachers that uphold these rules, and then they probably also have bad home lives with no outlets or companionship to defuse stress in, and decide fuck it, they'll just start killing everyone they think is to blame for the pain they feel inside and the system that ignores their pain and in fact supports it. You clearly know nothing about why these kids act out, and blame it simply on gun access while ignoring the fact that all sources of unity and happiness have been replaced in modern western society with the new world order globalist faggotry. Unironically kill yourself.

, here. I'm still waiting, but I know you're not going to do it because you're a coward.

Hello propaganda bot, none of what you posted is accurate or factual.
Firearms are the leading cause of homicide, but that is because they are more effective than knives or fists: assault without a firearm is far more common.
90% of gun related crime the weapon is never fired.
Most firearm related deaths are black on black, 80% of non-black victim shootings are black perpetrators.
Most of the 400million firearms are in safe and legal ownership. Most guns used in crimes are black market weapons from across the borders illegally possessed by organized crime.
Guns are never at fault, they don't have consciousness or willpower, the problem has been 6% of the population which are black men, and the other 20% of criminals comprised of hispanics, whites, first peoples, and asians in that descending order.
Police officer shootings are incredibly rare, less than one-in-a-million to less than one-in-ten-million police encounters. When an officer draws their weapon is not usually fired. When a police shooting does happen, it is repeatedly played on the news for months.
But go ahead and believe what you want, this is Anon Babble land of fantasy and lies, none of you will ever look at stats from CDC, DOJ, or FBI.

You clearly know nothing about why these kids act out

Nigger stop defending school shooters. Gun rights are fine but this shit is like the pedos in the loli thread acting like their deranged fetish is what the founding fathers envisioned when they made the first amendment

Oh.. imagine that. Coward.

Nigger stop defending school shooters

You're actually retarded if you think me empathizing with their situation and why they probably ended up doing something bad, means that I am defending their actions of doing it. However we clearly live in a system that clearly is not helping these kids who feel these things, are given no outlets to their frustrations, and the system is by far very anti male, anti straight, and anti white. It's easy to see why some kids get fed up with it. If you think understanding the reasons why things happens means that I am endorsing the violence, then you seriously are retarded. Why do we have schools set up for memorizing and regurgitating information which is what females excel at? Why are we so adamant about denying young boys real life experiences and interactivity during education? Why are we so quick to demonize the victim of bullying just because they snap and had enough? All of that and people aren't wanting to help outcasts, they would rather continue to demonize and blame them than have an ounce of empathy for someone suffering. You faggots are apart of the problem.

The world is unfair, get over it. If you don't you're no different from the leftist retards that blame whites for the problems of blacks.

The world is unfair so that means the systems we purposefully set up and uphold with our tax dollars actively must continue to exist exactly as it does, because the thought of even trying to improve the current system that is literally only the way it is because of human decided rules and regulations and enforcement of such systems, is unthinkable.

I see, so you just like it this way, well you must be plain stupid then, or jewish.