Why are you not vegan? it's literally cheaper than buying meat or making an animal suffer

Why are you not vegan? it's literally cheaper than buying meat or making an animal suffer.

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animals suffer anyway, and meat is delicious

get a load of this faggot

very primitive mindset, are you black?

Sociopaths get off on the suffering of others.

Cooking using vegetables is a hidden life hack. They are cheap, fill you up, taste good and make you healthy. But you need to buy zinc tablets, and pea protein.

those Beyond Burger patties are $20/lb., if you buy in bulk (the actual package you're showing has an even higher price per pound)
ground beef is $4/lb.

pea protein.

majority of vegan meals are packed with pea protein.

statistically it works out cheaper to be vegan, also cheaper vegan burgers exist other than beyond.

sage
death to all faggots anti-vegan or pro-meat or anti-meat or whatever you suck

primitive how? when did animals stop being delicious?
and when did humans stop being animals? we've always been animals

Enjoy your nutrient deficiencies, vegan faggots.
Meanwhile I'll get proper recommended daily values of iron without the over-consumption of vegetables overdosing me on other nutrients just to meet the quota.
Every time someone goes vegan you can tell. They become weak and unhealthy as fuck looking.

Enjoy your nutrient deficiencies, vegan faggots.

Remind me, why are the majority of meat eaters the ones who are nutrient deficient? enjoy your hormone estrogen pumped meat fat boi!

Because 99% of people aren't retarded vegans who were brainwashed by celebrities and woke culture, and of those 99%, a huge portion are lazy fucks who just eat slop quality meat from fast food chains and who don't work out.

why are the majority of meat eaters the ones who are nutrient deficient?

because most people are meat eaters, so of course most people are nutrient deficient are meat eaters, do you know what a venn diagram is?

Because 99% of people aren't retarded vegans who were brainwashed by celebrities and woke culture

What's so woke about caring about animals? 10 billion animals are slaughtered annually in slaughterhouses in the US. This means that over 18,825 animals are killed every minute just to support the US food supply, you fat fucks are eating yourselves to death while support literal satanic barbarism.

If a diet consisting of mostly meat is so healthy and then why is that the case? I thought meat provided everything for you?

How come nasty fake meat crap didn't catch on in America?
You'd think it would have, after a fake virus, with a fake pandemic, and a fake vaccine, and a fake president being replaced by another fake president.
Guess they don't call us burgers for nothing.

Some days I’ll sneak onto our local farm at night just to wail on the livestock, just beat the piss out of them. Farmer doesn’t mind because it teaches them respect he says and makes it more marketable to the local Chinese community

How come nasty fake meat crap didn't catch on in America?

You might want to check the statistics on that.

What's your diet?

Vegan obviously, are you looking for a gotcha moment?

What's so woke about caring about animals?

Just because you willingly sacrifice your own nutrition for the sake of "le poor heckin animal" doesn't mean meat eaters want animals to suffer. We raise them and kill them with limited suffering.
Go ask a big fish why it enjoys the suffering of the smaller fish it ate, you absolute whiney fucktard.
Go make love to a tree while you're at it. They have feelings don't you know?

What's so woke about caring about animals? 1

trying to force the opinion onto others
I don't give a shit if you want to abstain from eating meat for your own personal reasons, but don't try and convert everyone else, just keep it to yourself unless someone asks

This means that over 18,825 animals are killed every minute just to support the US food supply

so? do you know how many animals are killed in farming to give you your plant based foods? unless it's done by hand in organic farming, it's millions of deaths

you fat fucks are eating yourselves to death

everyone dies, what are you talking about? eating plants doesn't make you immortal

If a diet consisting of mostly meat

that's a poor diet, you shouldn't be eating mostly meat, humans aren't carnivores, you should be eating a variety of foods, not only meat

I'm reverse of vegan. I'm almost carnivore.

so?

Lacks empathy = not white.

We raise them and kill them with limited suffering.

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having empathy for animals and having empathy for other humans are very different things

Animals are innocent by nature. Humans are blessed with a higher level of consciousness. Our higher level of consciousness allows us to reflect and make ethical choices and contemplate our actions. Clearly you didn't develop these.

You eat meat so that means you must only buy meat from farms that force animals to suffer

Nice try, retard.
In your commie, vegan world there'd be only one government approved choice for everything. I guess that's why you're confused and don't understand that in reality, I get to choose which farms I buy my meat from.

animals have to die so we can get the meat from them, I don't see the problem

ITT: some overly-sensitive Californian tranny cries about animals dying, but doesn't give a shit about the plants he eats equally suffering when they lose their life.
What a piece of shit.

Would love to. When vegan options are cheaper than the default I’d gladly switch.

Animals are still slaughtered for your primitive enjoyment of taste. If you can afford to buy from private farms, you can buy vegan food. But instead you abuse the innocent and defenseless because you're fat retard who likes animals to be tortured for your enjoyment.

Of course you don't see the problem. You're literally a sociopath

but doesn't give a shit about the plants he eats equally suffering

Plants are not conscious or have a cerebral cortex.

I have empathy for other humans who deserve it
I don't intentionally cause undue harm to animals or humans
animals must die for us to eat them, I don't see a problem here

I don't intentionally cause undue harm to animals or humans

You intentionally support the meat industry thus contributing to the suffering of animals. Next.

You're literally a sociopath

how is raising animals for food in any way sociopathic?

and? I said undue harm
slaughtering farm animals for food is not undue harm

Plants are not conscious

I have bad news for you, there are lots of study that suggests they do, they react in all sorts of ways to negative stimuli in their environment
you might have to just stop eating altogether

slaughtering farm animals for food is not undue harm

You don't need to slaughter animals to survive. Next.

Lack of empathy and disregard for others applies to animals too.

animals are delicious, cry about it

I have bad news for you, there are lots of study that suggests they do

Plants aren't conscious in the way animals or humans are they lack a nervous system and brain. It's time to go back to school, or maybe it's the meat based diet making you more retarded.

You don't need to slaughter animals to survive. Next.

but I choose to, deal with it

applies to animals too.

it literally doesn't, I don't go around slaughtering humans

How is killing an animal for consumption different from killing a plant for consumption?
Please explain your mental illness to these fine folks, tranny.
Do you think plants aren't living species or something?
I know your type doesn't understand basic biology but come on.

How is killing an animal for consumption different from killing a plant for consumption?

see

I think you might need to go back to school and read more recent studies done on plants

so if we give massive doses of anesthetics to the animals before slaughtering them so they feel no pain then it's ok? got it

You're an absolute retard if you believe animals' presence of a nervous system and a barely conscious brain means they shouldn't be hunted or eaten by other animals who are higher on the food chain.

but I choose to, deal with it

So own the fact you like to contribute to the suffering and slaughter or innocent defenseless animals for your own pleasure of taste.

Plants are not conscious the way animals or humans are, they don't have a nervous system and brain. They have the right to live.

presence of a nervous system and a barely conscious brain

I'm chatting with a retard right now.

own the fact you like to contribute to the suffering

if you truly cared about contributing to overall suffering and preventing it, you wouldn't pussy out at being vegan, and you'd go all the way and commit to being an antinatalist

Plants are not conscious the way animals or humans are

I'm only going to repeat this one more time, you need to familiarize yourself with more recent studies on plants

antinatalist

Jokes on you

you need to familiarize yourself with more recent studies on plants

No studies on plants say that plants are conscious like animals or humans, go back to school lol it's embarrassing.

Plants are not conscious the way animals or humans are, they don't have a nervous system and brain. They have the right to live.

animals aren't conscious the way humans are, they aren't as self-aware and don't contemplate their own existence in the universe, they don't have any rights that we don't decide they have

conscious like animals or humans

nice tautology
of course they aren't, they aren't animals, they're plants, they are conscious in the way plants are, that doesn't mean it's not at all, it just means the mechanisms are different

This.
Now stop splitting hairs about consciousness and "rights" of lesser species and realize what anyone with half a brain has realized when they were 6 years old:
We are the dominant species and we'll kill and eat whatever the fuck we want.

animals aren't conscious the way humans are, they aren't as self-aware and don't contemplate their own existence in the universe

So why take advantage abuse the innocent and defenseless?

So you admit plants are not on the same level as animals as you made them out to be in your other reply. Congratulations anon, took you a while.

You take advantage and abuse innocent and defenseless plants by your own logic, absolute moron.

Thanks for crying and virtue signalling though lol

Plants are not on the same level of consciousness as animals nor do they have a brain or cerebral cortex. Nice try anon.

and as others have said, animals aren't the same level of consciousness as humans.
Your argument is invalid, and you're a moron with zero logic.

animals aren't the same level of consciousness as humans.

But we a lot similarities. We both experience/feel the same type of emotions from joy to fear and to grief. Both are aware of our environments, we both learn from our experiences. Only true difference between us and animals are have a higher level of consciousness meaning self reflection and ethical reasoning.

So you admit plants are not on the same level

that's not what I said, I didn't say anything about "levels", I said different as in different mechanisms. they likely have consciousness of some sort, it's just not the same as ours and we're still trying to understand it

So why take advantage abuse the innocent and defenseless?

because they're delicious. and we feed and care for them before slaughter, they aren't left to fend for themselves in the wild

they likely have consciousness of some sort

Again plants do not have consciousness. No "some sort" retard. No source in the world says this.

because they're delicious

You clearly have an underdeveloped cerebral cortex. Unfortunate anon.

As I was expecting, you come back with another equally retarded point like "BUT I IDENTIFY WITH THE ANIMALS YOU EAT CAUSE I'M A FURFAG WHO LARPS AS A COW, AND HAVE SEX WITH MY DOG"
You watch too many cutesy animal youtube videos as a stay at home tranny faggot which have convinced you they're just like us, when they're not even close, retard.

Like I said, plants aren't on the same level as animals, and animals aren't on the same level as us. We eat them all, meanwhile you cry like a bitch.
Enjoy.
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wah wah wah

Not an argument.. Next.

Vegan meat products are expensive. All that Morning Star food in the frozen section is good, but costs alot.

wah wah wah

yeah stop crying like a bitch and we'll stop laughing at you

thinks plants are conscious

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thinks plants don't have life

thinks the presence of very specific organs gives a lifeform the right to not be eaten by a higher lifeform.

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No source in the world says this.

now you're just being willfully ignorant so you can claim moral superiority, fuck off, you don't actually care, you just want to virtue signal as if you do care

did you know trees use fungal networks to communicate with each other? they share information, alert each other about dangers, share nutrients, etc

Vegan meat taste bad.

Are you actually asking a vegan, tranny, furfaggot a logical question?
Good luck.

Plants don't feel pain because they lack a nervous system and brain which are literally essential for experiencing pain. Remember this anon, it might help you in the future.

I don't eat trees. I know broccoli looks like trees anon but they are completely different! :)

I don't eat trees

it was an example ya dingus

very specific organs and pain receptors mean this lifeform has a right to not be eaten over another lifeform

Retard logic is real.

which are literally essential for experiencing pain.

according to who? plants will recoil and react to negative stimuli as well, who says they have to have the same organs as animals to feel things?

I'll bite though. Consciousness involves awareness and subjective experience that require a brain and nervous system. tree responses are complex biological reactions.

NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST... I MEAN....I'M A FURFAG!! OKAY!!??!?

that require a brain and nervous system

this is a logic leap that's unfounded

plants will recoil and react to negative stimuli as well

these reactions are automatic biological processes rather than conscious decisions anon please, it's nowhere near a form of consciousness

feels like you're trying to split hairs so you can claim some sort of moral superiority

Oh I know I am morally superior to you, you choose to continue to eat and support animals being slaughtered even though you know what they go through.

and at the end of the day, "consciousness" is a biological process, you moron.
Who's to say that one is superior to another and who's to say one is deserving of being eaten or not?
You? Why?
Because you're a retarded furfag who humanizes animals after reading too much furfag fanfiction?
Let me guess you're a "dog mom"
Fuck off, tranny.

even though you know what they go through.

they are raised and cared for their entire lives, provided food, water, shelter from predators, etc.
sounds like a great life to me

and at the end of the day, "consciousness" is a biological process, you moron.

Yes. Consciousness is a part of biological processes, involving complex interactions between neurons in the brain. Congratulations anon, you now know what consciousness is.

meanwhile this vegan barbarian will RIP a leaf and a berry off a plant lifeform.
Fucking DISGUSTING!

and plants have equally complex biological interactions.
More shit logic from a retard tranny.

involving complex interactions between neurons in the brain

that's one mechanism, it's not the only one

equally complex biological interactions.

chemical signaling

growth responses

wew lad such complex compared to human consciousness

you're primitive

racism

lolirony

and animals aren't as complex as human.
Again why do you want to virtue signal so badly?
Move out of california for the love of god.

It's to get the anon to understand the "in the brain" part he keeps missing.

and animals aren't as complex as human.

Pigs and cows are conscious the same way we have consciousness. They have awareness, emotions, respond to the environment the same way we do.

Pigs and cows are conscious the same way we have consciousness.

aaaand you lost

the "in the brain" part he keeps missing.

brains aren't a requirement for consciousness though

aaaand you lost

Scroll up. I said before not quite the same level as human consciousnes.

the same

no

I MEAN NOT THE SAME SCROLL UP!!

retard

the basis for consciousness generally requires a brain

that's categorically wrong

Just look at this Khanty mother giving her child red meat!
Why doesn't she just hop into her Subaru and drive to the nearest vegan co-op like the rest of u?

Cheaper than eating meat

The beyond meat is literally $10 for 1 lbs.

*us

awareness, perception, and the ability to process and respond to information generally requires a brain with complex neural networks something plants lack.

generally requires a brain

it's not going to be true no matter how many times you repeat it
none of those things require a brain

$10/smug

I'm not going to blame a savage for being a savage. You as a westerner should be held to a different standard.

Statistically meat tastes better.
Statistically vegans are massive faggots.
Statistically you can't do a fucking thing to keep me from eating meat.

look up slime mold
some really great documentaries on it

Go cry and scream and shit your pants at all the fish in the WESTERN ocean for eating other fish whole. Not even sedating them first.
absolute tranny, californian faggot.

Statistically you can't do a fucking thing to keep me from eating meat.

Meat is unsustainable. The future is vegetarian, the rising prices will only get worse. 92.2 billion land animals a year is not sustainable.

I'm not going to blame a savage for being a savage.

OMG, cultural elitism at its finest

Meat is unsustainable. The future is vegetarian,

maybe in 100 years if the population keeps growing, but I'll be dead by then so I don't care
and it may not even come to that if the population collapses with all of the negative birthrates in so many countries

look up slime mold

that's chemical signals anon, the same thing plants use.

population collapses with all of the negative birthrates in so many countries

This is also a good thing. Who wants the west to turn into India?

Just what about the Khanty mother is being a "savage" soyboi?

Just what about the Khanty mother is being a "savage" soyboi?

Even neanderthals cooked meat. This Khanty is a savage.

look it up
they show signs of "intelligence"
a deep mystery since they are single-celled without a traditional brain

they show signs of "intelligence"

that's not consciousness. Intelligence can exist without consciousness

you didn't answer the question
what do you think she has available for protein?
Tofu?

Why haven't you killed yourself? It's literally cheaper than being alive or making an animal suffer.

the furfaggot vegan has no sense of grey areas.
He can only comprehend the black and white of "animal good and same as human" and "plant bad and food."
Stop having sex with and identifying with animals and then maybe you won't feel so personally attacked by them being killed and eaten.

meat is unsustainable

Only for you super soft faggots. I hunt so meat is an endless option for me.

Sorry 92.2 billion land animals a year is not sustainable. Even you as a retard know this.

then eat slime mold

what do you think she has available for protein?

berries and mushrooms, wild plants, eggs.

mold is typically bad for you anon but if you think it has a consciousness then it's right up your alley, something else for you to abuse and kill.

I'd rather eat cows, chickens, and pigs, thanks though

vegans are pussies too fat and/or afraid to hunt meat and most of the population wants you to kys when you start virtue signalling.

It's literally not cheaper than meat, if you're talking about that beyond burger shit.

If you're talking a bag of rice and carrots, yeah.

Anyway, I don't eat very much meat but a lot of cheese and eggs.

If anything I only need to cut out the cheese and carbs. Also ur a faggot.

enjoy your iron deficiency visit to the emergency room

why don't we start processing useless humans like you is the real question

Oh good, I need some purple moss clumps and purging stones

I take a multivitamin and I do eat meat. I just don't have to have it with every meal like you fat fucks.

It's not enough man.
Vitamins are a scam and don't actually provide nutrients they claim to.
Eat a bit more red meat. Once every 2 weeks isn't enough. You'll begin having health issues.